Ya I've decided this book is a No for me. It's the first book that says Batman on it that I haven't bought (usually I get two-3 copies of everything Batman) But Jace is not Batman, him and dc can scream " I am Batman " 1,000,000 times, and it will never be true. Bruce Wayne is Batman, and nobody can uphold the mantle the way he does. Not nightwing, Jason, (pre bi sexual tim, because now even his new boyfriend is as tough as him ) and Jim Gordon even thought he was a bad Batman.

And if DC makes the mainline Batman book Jace after fear state. I'm out and will be building up my trade collection of older Batman stories/ other series. I don't have to give dc money if they make books nobody wants.

@Batmanaholic I'm thinking the exact same. Having endured the Tom King experiment, my goodwill and patience is wearing thin - to the point that I will drop the main Batman book for the first time since first picking it up almost 9 years ago.

@DarePool53 man that's what I don't get about the hate of tynions run. It's not perfect but atleast it's fun to read, and Batman does Batman things in it. He doesn't need catwoman to do it for him. I didn't mind the first 50 issues of kings run, but god damn Bruce became such a crybaby bitch in the second half, and then needed cat woman to do anything cool in the last 37 issues.

As I understand it all the Tim Fox books have dropped out of the top 50 sales after one or two issues. By comparison all the other batbooks remain in the top 50. It's pretty clear the character is not resonating with DC readers.

His cause is somewhat of a selfish one as compared to Bruce Wayne's. Bruce became Batman so that what happened to should never rdd happen to anyone else. Tim Fox has a problem with rich people and how they affect poor people. Mind you hes stolen Bruce's gear and his father has effectively stolen the Wayne fortune. So now he he has a beef with his even richer dad.

Bruce trained fir years with Ducard Giovanni Zataea Master Rikishi and a host of others. Tim Fox trained briefly under Karaba. Yet this guy is the better Batman for today? Nothung about him is earned. Mo...hes not Batman.

I'm ready to drop DC if they make bu Tim canon. I have no intention of returning to DC if Tim Fox continues to steal what is Bruce Wayne's. Bruce IS Batman.

Apologies for the bad proof reading...Master Kirigi where Bruce learned ninjutsu and Guovanni Zatara the father of Zatana. Rikishi is WWE.

@WinterSolider: No need to thank me, I'll always say what's on my mind even if it bothers some here. I'm glad I see others like you, Batmanaholic, DarePool53 or Ming who don't buy DC's crap. It's time they started listening to the fans and not to the toxic mind of people like Ridley who see nothing but race, privilege and crap like that. What they're trying to do to Bruce is disgraceful.

I don't know what the DC directors have on their minds politicizing the comics, people don't want to read about stupid politics from the left or right, or how they all go nonsense or a spoiled fat woman traumatized because her mother is pretty. We want creativity, blows, action, conflict. He is not a pathetic bad character, I think they spend more to goof around with the characters and give prominence to nefarious characters just to please some whiners who are not interested in buying comics.

Take away Jason and Nightwing's guns and this garbage promotes hatred of people with money? What's Next? Let's make a ghetto for the rich and throw it on them?

You nailed it again fenix. Mo one wants politics in their stories right or left. If its used as a set up or backdrop fine just tell me a good story. But if it's to push ideology and agendas then NO we don't want it for any side. These activists know mo one will buy a book of original creations that push their agenda so they trojan horse their poison in the books with larger audiences. Bruce is rich and he is more a philanthropist and just man than anything Ridley can come up with.

@fenix: "Let's make a ghetto for the rich" Don't give them any ideas, man. :)) There are a lot of writers in the industry who flirt up with Marxism, I would not put it above them to come up with ideas like that.

And it turns out Batman will leave Gotham at the end of the year. So yeah, they are probably replacing Batman with Jace Fox. Absolutely disgraceful!

Yeah, and I couldn't care less about Jace Fox as Batman. Especially written by Ridley, I couldn't care less about his war on "privilege".

It was more of the same, really. It revealed his backstory, that's the only thing that mattered.

I just read it Merlyn. At the moment I've been buying out if continuity batbooks but with Bruce thrown off his own book I'm dumping DC as long hes not main Batman. Bi Tim Drake makes that decision even easier. I have no interest in Tim Foxs war on "privilege" Ridley or otherwise. I still suspect after an initial spike in sales from speculators and the curious Batman sales will tank in numbers we haven't seen since before Denny O Neill saved the ship.

Dark Knight D. We know Bruce will be back because after the issue 1 spike the sales will plunge. I think you'll even see Batman leave the top 10. For context Tom Fox books leave the top 50 after a couple of issues. Even the tpbs don't make it. Its clear the core readers arent invested in the character and its fair to say for various reasons.