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Other than Selina dumping him, what other terrible thing from his past happened on a rooftop?
"The Fall and the Fallen" concludes with a father-and-son showdown. Flashpoint Batman reveals his fiendish reasoning for dragging Batman into the desert, and who is in the coffin they've been dragging along with them. But is this a step too far? It's Bruce Wayne versus Thomas Wayne for the right to wear the cowl, and all of Gotham City hangs in the balance!
This issue ties the arc together in outstanding fashion. Delivering heartrending emotion, brutal action, jaw-dropping art, and layers upon layers of storytelling. Read Full Review
This issue ties the arc together in outstanding fashion. Delivering heartrending emotion, brutal action, jaw-dropping art, and layers upon layers of storytelling. Read Full Review
King, Janin, Bellaire, and Cowles all do a fantastic job developing this issue, resulting in a conclusion to the arc that is one of the strongest single issues throughout the entire run. Read Full Review
We are moving into Tom King's last storyline after this. It's been a worthwhile adventure up until now. I'm dying to see where he takes us from here. I certainly can't wait. Read Full Review
City of Bane and the last big storyline of King's run on this title is right around the corner, but when talking about the high points of this run, this issue is bound to be high on the list. Read Full Review
Batman #74 is an emotionally satisfying culmination of many issues of build-up. It's filled to the brim with thoughts and ideas and is executed wonderfully by a creative dream team. This issue answers the questions that it needs to answer and leaves the others alone. It's issues like this that demonstrate why sometimes it's better to use restraint in storytelling rather that going all out on everything. It makes for a raw and real issue of a Batman comic book. Read Full Review
Because of the desert setting of this story, Mike Janin moves the camera in for more close up panels of the characters. Stripped of all the outside distractions, the art complements the personal, one on one aspect of the story. The story is about father and son and Janin's art focuses on that to great effect. Read Full Review
Balancing good psychology with roaring action is no easy task, but it is one which the team of King, Bellaire, and Janin have absolutely knocked out of the park. This issue more than redeems the somewhat weaker passages we had to slog through to get here. Read Full Review
Batman #74 puts the series back on track as it wraps up Batman's father/son reunion. Read Full Review
Next issue, we'll likely be hyperventilating again as the next story arc is called “City of Bane” and will likely be the beginning of our ultimate climax of the series. Read Full Review
Batman battles his father in a strong, meaningful issue, though I wish there had been more build-up. Read Full Review
Batman #74 is a good read and although I'm not surprised that Bruce chose not to resurrect his mother I am shocked. I can only guess it's because he knows the dangers of the pit through his interactions with the League and Ra's, but also I'd like to think it's because of the idea of Batman. He knows that without him Gotham City would fall apart, and he would refuse to let that happen. Now Bruce begins the dangerous trek back to Gotham City–and back to Bane! Read Full Review
A solid issue featuring a return to form for Batman that makes me excited for the next chapter as this saga enters its final chapter with City of Bane. Read Full Review
Despite some narrative shortcomings, BATMAN #74 has a lot to pick through on a thematic level. It's more solid work from Tom King, with excellent artwork courtesy of Mikel Janin and Jordie Bellaire. Read Full Review
Slow, but effective nonetheless, this final chapter brings a fitting end to The Fall and the Fallen and conjures a great deal of interest for issues to come. Read Full Review
The City of Bane kicks off next issue and it's a big milestone for the title. King's Batman run has 10 more issues left so it will be interesting to see if he can tie up all these loose ends and weave them together in a way to make readers reflect favorably on this final arc. Right now it could go either way, but King has done enough great work on the book to be optimistic this final string of issues could be the most exciting aspect of his run even if the road to get there has been uneven and shaky at times. Read Full Review
As we wrap this arc up and prepare for "City of Bane," I can't help but feel we've taken a step in the right direction. There's no denying that I haven't enjoyed King's Batman, but I was quite pleased with this issue. We finally get some moments that many of us have been waiting for, as well as some distinct answers to a few questions. With that said, King still has a lot of ground to cover before closing out his run. And considering Batman ruined Thomas' plan, I have no doubt that he'll become even more of a threat to Bruce in the near future. Read Full Review
King and Janin prepare Batman for the next blockbuster storylineCity of Bane.The road to get there is adequate. While the overall premise is great, Batman#74 gets bogged down by a lot of narrative flaws. The metaphors are unsubtle, the dialogue is repetitious, and the pacing is a drag. Read Full Review
Like this finale's desert setting, the "Fall and the Fallen" feels built on a foundation of sand, and while there have been several narrative oases to keep things moving, hopefully King and company will move to some more fertile storytelling ground with their next arc. Read Full Review
Even though the final issue of "The Fall and the Fallen" is hampered by a meandering script, the artwork is a visual treat and the last four pages are a perfect example of how a good creative team can bring out the best in each other. Read Full Review
This deep in, readers get it: Bruce Wayne is a mess with a whole lot of daddy issues. Do we really need to drive that point home every issue? Read Full Review
Batman #74 was a summary of all the problems that "The Fall and the Fallen" had with giving "The City of Bane" event a strong lead. All those problems center around how Flashpoint Batman's character arc went. Tom King just never made the direction he took Flashpoint Batman on something that was rewarding. Fortunately Bruce Wayne's part in this story along with Mikel Janin and Jordie Bellaire's artwork lifted the story up enough so Batman #74 didn't completely drop the ball as we enter "The City of Bane." Read Full Review
Two men walk through a desert and talk about a child's folktale. We once again leave a Batman book without any real progress on the questions that we need answered the most. I can appreciate a slow burn but this has been going at a snail's pace. Slow burns only work if there is actually a burn. This book feels like we are trying to fan the flames of a dying fire until we finally get to the finish line. Read Full Review
The last issue before City of Bane was spectacular. The father/son moments between Thomas and Bruce are very emotional and good written. Mikel Janín's art is beautiful. One of my favorite comics on King's Batman run.
"...I'm still here"
Damn, that last line gave me chills.
So we see the often criticized use of a folktale from an earlier issue used as double allegory for the events of the run, and more parallels to Bane, with the climbing out of the pit. There is something really satisfying about Batman breaking out of his funk of the past like 20 issues and denying that Bane or Thomas Wayne managed to break him. Is this the start of the redemption act?
It is also interesting how rooftops were where Bruce feels most at home, but almost everything terrible that has happened to him was atop a rooftop, and now while deep inside a pit, basically the furthest thing possible from a rooftop... he finds his motivation and streng more
Damn, that was good.
Damn, this was good! Loving the crazy father crazy son dynamic...
The whole art justify to read the book, I mean, Janín and Bellaire did an excellent job in this one, the desert and the pit panels looks just incredible. That is 10/10, but like I said before, We know that the art has never been an issue to this book. Most of the complains about this run have one name "Tom King". This run is perfect, of course no, but at least for me, it has some level of quality and it is good to see how King relates one story to another. Now it is time to see how all of this concludes and finally we will know if there are some answers for some plot points, if you didn't like this Batman it wil be very difficult that you will like this conclusion.
"The Fall and the Fallen" arc ends with a bang.
In the finale of this arc, Bruce and Thomas make their way to the pit in order to resurrect Martha. With some twists and turns, amazing art that created a very atmospheric issue and served the more personal story well, we get a very interesting and intense issue that left me super excited for the next arc.
I think this was a fairly good issue for the most part. I would have liked more dialogue between the characters but I'm pretty much always wanting that. I don't think that daddy Bat really thinks all that much of his "son". He says he is proud of him but at the same time he is constantly getting these little digs in that hint otherwise. I am beginning to believe what daddy bat really wants is to be Batman. I think it's all about getting Bruce to turn away from being Batman so that he can be Batman instead. Daddy Bat's knows that Bane can break Bruce's back but it wouldn't be enough to truly break him. However if Bruce finds true love with Cat and the chance to be happy. Plus on top of that he gets his mother back as well as his sort of "dad more
Another day with a Batman release, another day with claims that King is the worst writer we've ever seen. So who is in the wrong ? The fans who can't see the flaws and incoherence of King or the haters who are not able to see past the name on the cover ? Don't know. Dont really care.
Personnaly, i think that this was a good issue. I love the way Thomas Wayne is characterize : he really is mad and Bruce quickly realize it. His motivations are clear and not incoherent with wath we know of the character.
There is also the return of the pit tale from issue 57 that is used to explain the relation between Bruce and his father. Typical King writing and i thought it was great to see it use again even if it wasn't necessary to have more
Nice fight, nice art
Ok issue to end this arc. At this point, I'm just waiting to see how the run will end before I judge it as a whole, but at least this arc was better than Knightmares. The art as always is fantastic and is one of the main reasons I'm still reading this book.
Convoluted as hell. I can feel King thinking "I am a genius" while reading this. 6 is for the art.
In a shock to no one, this plan Thomas Wayne had didn't work. We get a return of the folklore from Batman #57. It serves as the focal point of the entire issue, and then we even have the story narrated to us again. Because we needed the point hammered home after it had just been made. This is supposed to be cathartic, but it's not because this story hasn't been well constructed. I'm glad Bruce has finally decided not to be depressed, at least. He never really gave up, though, he just got a little more violent. He was always on the money with Bane and was never going to stop. But I'm glad he overcame that so he can go beat up Bane.
The nice thing about this comic is that I could read it quickly because I just skipped over the redundant story.
"I'm still here"
Yeah, you are. And so are we, but I don't know what for, really.
This comic book is sooo empty. The issue took the repetition thing to a whole new level. We get the same damn story about animals in the pit and we get it twice, just for the fun of it.
Animals, book, screaming. Book, animals, screaming. Screaming, book, animals.
Ah, hell no!
Just. Stop.
Phlease.
This is the final issue of the „Fall& the Fallen“arc& compared to the Knightmare arc we at least get some story progression: Bruce& Flashpoint Batman are fighting in the desert. In the end someone climbs out of the hole, but we don’t know yet, who it will be. However there are many plotholes, unanswered questions& missed opportunities, that make it impossible for me to enjoy it.
Minor SPOILER WARNING:
The entire plot here is a retelling of the fairy tale from issue 57& it’s a missed opportunity, that King rather retells an already known story instead of concentrating of one of his more interesting ideas: the reviving of Martha. This is kept way too short& just shortly mentioned. Out of nowhere it’s stated, that Br more
Last issue was, I thought aat least, a moment of twist, which will, finally, resuscitate the series and add some, any, story to it, especially since DC editorial decided to pull the plug to his run earlier (and thank goodness for that). This week all I can do is admit my failure. I was wrong, the comic leads absolutely nowhere, it's devoid of any substance, and King, despite having only half of year to conclude his story, still decides to add even more filler to it.
The story of this issue could be summarized in barely one sentence. You ready? Bruce buries his mother somewhere on the desert so she can't be resurrected, which pisses of Thomas and they fight. The end.
The rest of this issue is dedicated to meaningless conversa more
I would like to give this a 1 just to even out all the King Cult members wbo will give it a 10 but I wont do that. This issue is the epitome of what we have gotten the whole series which is nothing. You get Tom King using the majority of the issue just using a folk tale for dialogue (which he does more than write his own anymore) a story that goes nowhere, and a zero questions answered. I can not wait for King to be off this book so maybe we can get Batman back instead of whatever god awful character this. The art was alright.
another complete waste of an issue.
Tom King is awful part #74 ... #11ToGo
Lets see, King uses a folk tale he’s already used previously and then repeats it in the same story. Still no resolution on how Thomas is in this world. Bruce gets into a straight up fight while still healing from a broken back and then being sling across the back of a horse. This is just more bullshit. People seem to think it’s some sort of genius writing but it’s mostly just pretentious bullshit that tells the reader nothing. It’s one nonsense filler issue after another and I can’t wait till it’s over. King seems to have big ideas so hopefully he does better writing movies where a more competent writer can fill in the details. As for this issue, if you haven’t bought it already, don’t bother.
What to say. Basically “oh brother” covers it. The two bats get to the pit. While walking they do some talking.
Dad says Bruce was a whiner who always cried when dad would read him Russian folk tales from issue 57.
He said he wanted Bruce to be his own man, and once mom is restored that will happen for reasons.
Bruce says he always wanted to hear the stories because he hoped they would change so he was stubborn like mom, oh he buried her body in the desert so putting it in the extra special pit won’t work.
They fight. Dad is wearing heavy gear and a duster while Bruce is just wearin his cowl from the waist up. I guess he is not afraid of severe sun burn and sun poisoning.
They fi more
Yay! More useless garbage by Tom King. Again, please remove him from any of DC's main books!
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