My main problem is the dialogue and that the plot doesn’t move forward. I mean it’s #5 and still not that much happened apart from murders we already saw in issue1

this series has been spinning it's wheels and going nowhere. ...the only thing it's achieved is killing characters for the cheap shock value.

Yeah, but maybe we get the wow effect at the end. It’s not that bad compared to other stories.

yes it is. :P

Nothing is that bad like Darkseid War lol

sorry but Darkseid War is gold compared to this horse shit

No, it’s the other way around. When a powerful hero gets turned into a baby in HIC and gets portrayed like a total idiot, we can talk.

Darkseid is only a fictional character. Heroes in Crisis is exploiting and misrepresenting a very real illness that many people are afflicted with. ....sorry, but i think the misrepresentation and exploitation of the mentally ill is much worse.

you really should read this article about sufferers of PTSD being very put off by King's story. . . . . https://www.comicsmnt.com/?p=1685

I don’t think HIC addresses mental illness at all, no matter how much King or fans are claiming it does. All it did was showing, that the heroes have problems too. That’s really it. It’s not like King was disrespectful towards PTSD patients. So I Stick with Darkseid War being worse. HIC didnt ruin every character yet.

Thank you for the link, but honestly that article makes no sense. I mean since when does Batman know how to treat trauma/ mentall ill persons? He beats then up regularly, so saying Sanctuary was a bad idea is just stupid, because it’s obvious that it is. But I don’t blame Kung for it, it fits Batmans character. And people are offended by everything. Some were offended, that Bruce is circumcised, others, that DC didn’t make Penguin& Riddler really gay in Gotham, others that the art treats women

disrespectful ( welcome to comics) etc. People are ridiculous these days. That’s the main problem.

i blame King plenty. exploiting the topic of mental illness (especially misrepresenting) is a jackass thing to do. especially with his history of promoting suicide like it's a cool thing.

King's intention came across as legitimate. So for a book to come out that barely addresses mental illness, and when it does it's really poorly done, is bad. Especially considering King was talking to mental health professionals and then disregarded their advice.

The characters may not have known how to properly care for these people, but nothing so far has said that this is why things went awry, or even questioned the methods used at Sanctuary. Maybe if it did, this would be a better comic. But what you're trying to do is take all the problems with the concept of this series and say that it's okay because it fits Batman, when the writer, who is playing it straight, is the one who conceptualized the entire thing.

well said YourGreenMuse.

I don’t think so. Does it mean he isn’t allowed to write what he wants just because some people are taking it too personal? I don’t think so. The main problem with this series is the bad dialogue, not the idea itself. DC treated mental ill persons ( villains) bad since ages& nobody complained. Now it’s a problem because it’s about the heroes. Not to mention, that King didn’t even portray PTSD yet. I mean when?

I don’t get the problem here. First it was the ridiculous outrage about the art, now it’s King being disrespectful towards people, who suffer under depression. It makes sense for the characters. If Bruce knew anything about how to treat trauma, he wouldn’t be Batman. And how boring would a story be, if the heroes would whine about their „problems“.

You probably didn't notice it, but all of issue 3, I believe.

King went on a news tour about this book, trying to make it sound like it was about mental health and REAL issues. And then we get this horseshit.

sorry Darkseid24, YourGreenMuse is making some very excellent points.

Well guess I must have missed that then. People are thinking it’s Wally, who killed them. That would make sense, if he wanted to make a PTSD story. But who knows

I agree with Darkseid. Not about the Darkseid War, but about the outrage with mental health in this book. I think it's blown way out of proportion. They advertised it as a book about mental health. So I thought the book will show that heroes, these gods, also have problems like this, so people in real life that have this issues won't feel ashamed and the healthy ones will take notice of the problem.

I would have never expected from a comic book that it would tackle such a complex topic accurately. It's not the right medium.

As for the harmful portrayal of women. I really can't take with this subject. With enough will you can always find something that is "wrong". With HiC it seems that there is believe that there is some malicious intent behind these drawings aside from just looking good.

Women in comics are what mainstream considers pretty and/or sexy. And as long that they don't have outfits like Mileena in MK9 I think it should be okay. I mean, most men in comics have muscles that have muscles. It's over the top and mostly unrealistic, yet no one seems to have a problem with that. Rant over.

If you're not going to portray mental health well, don't make it the focal point of your press regarding that comic. Unstoppable Wasp just did an issue that showed a very realistic portrayal of Bipolar Disorder, backed by research and medical professionals. But you didn't hear about it because the writer and Marvel didn't spend their time hyping up that aspect of the comic.

And while I didn't find the stuff with female characters offensive, at least they could've done more than paint on their costumes and clothing over a nude female body.

Excusing the writer for their garbage work and blaming it on the medium itself is an insult to comics.

mental illness is a disability. and with this series Tom King is mocking the disabled.

Mocking? Really? Ok.

I don't think he's mocking mental illness. I just think he doesn't know what he's talking about.

yes egon244, mocking.

Well, ok then. I just think it's a completely ridiculous accusation. Tom King's only "crime" here is the inability to tell a compelling story. That's it.

i don’t find it ridiculous at all. it’s very possible that you take the subject of mental illness as lightly as you do because you might have not had anyone close to you affected by it. it’s not an easy thing to live through or watch someone deteriorate because of. the gross mishandling and portrayal of people that have to deal with this is not only a great disservice, but it paints a bad picture of it as well. hence why i call it a mockery.

I would be apprehensive of assuming things like that about other people. You're bound to make incorrect assumptions. You're right, it’s not an easy thing to live through or watch someone deteriorate. But you know what's worse? Being the one that is deteriorating.

I know mental ill people as well& I also read a lot about mental illness, but I don’t think HIC is mocking them or is didrespectful towards them. As it was said, it’s a comic, I don’t expect a comic to portray complex things well or deep. Plus that comics actually already mock mental ill people by how the villains are often treated, so it’s a little hypocritical to be offended by HIC, but not by other comics. As for women I think the butt window of Harley was more disrespectful.

you are both entitled to your opinions as i am to mine. we can all agree to disagree and move on as i find this subject not only depressing, but also exhausting. stirs up too many bad memories i'd much rather put back to rest. thank you.

Butt window?

they did away with those in the 60's. too many people were making a stink.

That was when she teamed up with Power Girl.

Thanks, Darkseid. Oh, myconius you are so, so funny, I'm rolling on the floor from laughter.

egon244 you can be a real A-hole.

i've tolerated you long enough.

🤔

Lol, this a bit ridiculous. It's just comics. Everyone chill out. This doesn't have to be the internet.

The general problem is a tent pole "event" series to be based upon such a dour topic. People are nitpicking because the story must not be meeting their basic expectations for comic reading. King and DC should feel the heat, because this story does not appear to be resonating with maybe chunks of the fan base. We want our heroes to show us the way through trauma, not leave us in despair.

Should read "large chunks."

@YourGreenMuse I agree. Kings story isn’t worth it anyway. @ Superheroes For Hire I see, now I know why I don’t feel offended, because I could never identify with cheerful& happy heroes like Flash, Nightwing, Tim or even Superman from the beginning. That’s why Batman is ok to me, because he isn’t so optimistic& more realistic. However if we talk trauma, there is always a specific trauma that is either linked to heroes or villains. Like parents/ beloved persons are often dead, when it comes to

Heroes, but abuse, bullying, disfigurement, loneliness, rejection is often just linked to villains. Did we ever have a hero, who was disfigured like Two Face& overcame it? I don’t think so. That’s why I personally don’t feel offended by it. I try to see the good pertain both villains& heroes. You can even find good characteristics in a villain like Darkseid.

good sides of