There are too many bugs in this story that don't stand up to scrutiny, and tim sale's style lifts the story to a level that doesn't belong to him

i'm gonna be honest, i only read the spider-man story. while the dialogue is a little dated, the story is so timeless that it's hard not to feel for peter. genuinely fantastic

mmmmmm..... Tyrannus is not the worst villain and he's kinda important marvel character, but is he a good enemy for the Hulk? Is it the villain you want to see in the Hulk mag? I doubt that...

And that story really was so-so. Too weird and lame... Also I missed the part, where Hulk again had Hulk's personality...

The second wasn't better. Yeah, we get an explanation of Hulk's behaviour. Bruce loses control. And the antagonist is... No, not an evil russky! It's an evil kitaisky!!!! Ha-ha, very funny. I have a feeling, that I read Captain America comics... Too much patriotism and confrontations with other countries (for the coincidence - red ones).

AND THE HELL... STRANGE FURRY OUTFIT? NOW I UNDERSTAND WHY THIS SERIES WAS CLOSED. THAT'S A CIRCUS. AND NOT A CIRCUS OF CRIME. CIRCUS OF HULK. THE HELL... I HATE IT.

That's the worst Hulk issue so far. I don't understand why the users of this site hated 2nd one, but not this. more

THE HELL!!!! THEY DID IT AGAIN!!!! 4'TH ISSUE IN THE ROW WE SEE THE ORIGIN OF THE HULK. I HATE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But at least Betty figured out the connection between Rick and Bruce/Hulk. At least she tried to think about it.

And I still hate Hulk being like here in the first story... So lame, so boring... And his leaps were so bad drawn (sorry, Jack), that he literally was flying... But at least we saw for the first time his iconic thunderclap.

Wow, such a lame decision to turn gamma monster back to normal human form by gamma ray. Yeah, that's how things work. Great work, Stan!

I don't like all these Hulk experiments. Like why the hell Banner wanted to turn himself into the Hulk with his personality over that body? Smart Hulk years before The Professor? But at least Rick finally lost his control over Hulk and that shameful period can be forgotten... I really want to.

Actually, changing his form at his will (by the machine, but by his will) wasn't really a bad idea, it's just bad for the Hulk as we know him now. It just takes off something really important for the character.

The second story is still kinda weird. That one-issue villain Mongu is bad, but you can forgive it, because he wasn't even the real character, but evil russkie again...

And... Vodka-land... Seriously? The heck, Stan? I understand your current living status and the time of that comic of course, but that's still so stupid...

I don't know, I thought these first comics would be much better... Especially after the great origin. Not the worst thing I read, but not that good, as it could be. And it could be! more

Huh, Hulk was bathed in more radiation (now cosmic) and got new powers... Now he can be Hulk even in daylight (wow, character development instead of retcon) and also he can jump high. He also even greener now.

However, that "Rick controls Hulk" thing was bad, stupid and awful... And how Rick could replace the ramrod? Okay, how they even made it originally? Yeah, just poor low-detailed writing again, that's all.

Also I didn't understand why they did recap Hulk's origin AGAIN. They already did it in the previous issue, but here again. And Hulk again was green in these flashbacks... Stupid and pointless. I wouldn't bear another flashback in the next issue... But I believe, Stan will dissapoint me...

But! And there's a big but. This issue introduced silver age Circus of Crime. Yeah, they are not the best villains of all (ESPECIALLY FOR THE HULK), but they are really important for the Marvel Universe and it was nice to see their first appearance here.

However, this story wasn't good at all. Logic is lame, this weak-willed Hulk is boring...

Overall, this issue wasn't that bad. Can't imagine why 3 users chose to rate it as 4.0, but I'll break this hate cycle. more

I never knew the Hulk initially transformed at night.

An underwhelming end, as it usually happens when two-parters in these early 60s comics.

Sandman was a pussy in these days... Captured by two cops with their bare hands... So stupid and lame...

This issue feels more like a Daredevil advertisement mixed with filler. I know the annual had just come out and a lot of work went into that, but this is such an inconsequential issue. Yeah, Spidey teams up with Daredevil for the first time, but nothing much is done with it. The Ringmaster is a really boring villain. The plot is very barebones and there's hardly anything to really parse through here. We get another MJ reference, which is nice. But nothing really is progressed here, in the overarching narrative. I'm not even sure if Betty being upset with Peter will factor in next issue. We'll see. I will say this issue did move fast, but again, that's because there's not much here. I really hope next issue picks up. I think it will, as I remember having fond memories of the first time Spider-Man decided to quit.

Quote of the issue: "I'd Rather Have a Gent Like You With Me Than Agin' Me!!" more

I'll get this out of the way. Mysterio is a really cool, exciting villain. But when you explain all his tricks, it kind of lessens the appeal for me.

Throughout so much of this issue, I kept thinking about the Far From Home movie. It had to be because of how much of the plot was lifted from these early Mysterio appearances. I don't have that same sort of problem with Vulture, Green Goblin, Doc Ock, Sandman, Electro or the Lizard. It could also be because it's the most recent Spider-Man movie, and therefore it's the freshest in my mind. I don't know, but there's a ton of parallels. And the idea that Mysterio is using drones actually causes much less ruination in my opinion than spring-loaded boots and nylon firing guns. I don't want this review to just be a refutation on all the people pretending Mysterio is so much cooler when he uses ridiculous contraptions and 1960s special effects to achieve his stunts. I have a feeling these people have never read this issue right here, and that's fine as long as they don't pretend to know.

But let's not focus on that, let's focus on how ridiculously Mysterio gets beaten. Not the fight itself, but rather Spider-Man recording his evil monologue where he explains everything. That was so lame, but also the only quick way to clear Spider-Man's name...

The money troubles briefly return here but they're probably done away with for now! But they'll be back, they always come back.

JJJ was amazing as always. He's the best.

Quote of the issue: "A Miniature Recorder!! Bah!" more

Look, this issue is super silly. Green Goblin's plan doesn't make a ton of sense, B.J. Cosmos is a nutty character, and Green Goblin can't even count. It's ridiculous, and I'm not sure why it's *so* ridiculous. We're Stan and Steve trying to create Spider-Man's Joker and leaned into it too hard? I'm not sure. Whatever the reason, it doesn't really affect my opinion of the issue.

I liked it. It's not as solid as the last few issues. It uses the Enforcers again, after all. But it's still of a higher quality than the earlier issues.

JJJ is still great. And we never find out if Peter got those pix for him!

Quote of the issue: "But One Thing He Didn't Count On is My Power of Chest Expansion!!" more

this is so random lol