Hmmm. This one is a hard one to rate. Especially because it was spoiled. I think there were good moments. I think if you reflect on the issue as a whole its more of the same, and it's not very eventful. I think this whole arc had some promise, but overall it's just doing too much to piss off the long time readers and fans, and it's not needed.

It's not bad and is fine for a finish to an average arc that's there to invoke feelings of sadness, loss and quite possibly anger. Also the art is good from Romita Jr. Hanna on inks and colors by Menyz. The problem is the story itself. First, the antagonist is one of the worst things about this. He and I don't care to remember his name is just as bad as the time-jump-gap and other previously overplayed ruses. Also Paul is a very average character. I just do not care about his story because relating him to the antagonist just does nothing to build any sort of background when the bad guy is a dumb idea.
Second, you sprinkle Kamala Khan for a few panels in 25 issues with no build up or explanation then do an info dump for a few pages and expect readers to care about her death in an ASM book?
I care about Kamala and was there from 2014 when G Willopw Wilson and Alphona knocked it out of the park for years. So I'm expected to not be pissed off that you just kill her here like that. Yes Wells does enough to make it work but man does it leave a bad taste in your mouth.
I'm off singles for this book for the first time in a decade and will follow TPB if they are good. These editors and Wells think they got a golden goose but they have no idea what they're doing and just might strangle it in the process. But don't worry it'll still sell for a while because 60 years of Nostalgia is a hard thing to destroy. more

Umm... so I have a LOT of thoughts about this comic. Maybe the biggest one is... I don't hate it? I think it's kinda okay-ish, not-bad-not-good-but-more-good-than-bad?

I KNOW I KNOW. Hear me out, put the pitchforks down.

Let's start with the good. I said, put the pitchforks down.

I kinda liked the art. Especially whenever Rabin was on scene, his ritual scenes were great. Everything looked kinda amazing. Faces tho, JRJR I love you and always will, but... yeah. Not as amazing to say kindly.

And the writing? Well it's mostly good. I re-read the previous issues of this arc and they felt better? A bit? And I was invested on this comic too. I cared what happened and, there were many good scenes. As a singular comic, I liked it.

And then came the death scenes. I must be honest, the idea works, how it goes down and all. I think had it not been spoiled, it would've kinda worked...

...had it not been Ms Marvel who dies. I'm not going to pretend that I'm a huge Kamala fan or anything, but this was not the place for it. Not the ASM book. Kamala has been barely a presence here, so her being gone just feels wrong. I remember when I first heard about it and I thought "this must be a troll or something, this is so stupid." I actually laughed becayse I was so sure it was a joke. But it wasn't. So no, this doesn't feel right, nor was it done well.

So if you are a massive Kamala fan, or just like her in general, and feels this to be a massive injustice to her, I get you, I won't disagree with you. It's not the worse thing ever for me, but I can recognize how badly it was done.

Then the other big thing. Like I said, I still kinda enjoyed this comic. As a singular comic, it's mostly good. As a finale to this "Death Language" -arc, it's still mostly good. As a finale to the first year of ASM, it's terrible. It's bad.

I hope you are still hearing me, because I feel now some of you might agree with me more.

During the past year, ASM has been plagued by this mystery box and the run has suffered for it. Heavily. There has been good issues (opening arc, Hobgoblin arc) and atrocius ones (#900, Dark Web). It has been hard to sometimes enjoy this run and while this finally gives us some answers, it doesn't make it better in hindsight.

Paul finally gets some character. Which is nice. I never hated him (although I love the memes), but this could've been brought up so much earlier to make us care about Paul. Especially since we have barely seen him. The flashbacks do work, but I would've wished to see them previously.

Same with the kids. A lot people enjoyed seeing them gone, and while I'm happy I was right about them being related to Wayeb'/Rabin, I just wish we would've seen them more. That I would care about them being gone more.

And Rabin as a villain was just poorly done. There was nothing interesting about him, and this family relation would've improved a lot, had it been brought up previously. His previous appearance in #555-557 worked much better for me (although that might be the nostalgia speaking, those were my ASM first comics I got when my mother started ASM subscription. Not my first ASM issues, but the first storyline I got to read fully).

To a lot of people, this arc is too little, too late. And I kinda agree. It doesn't justify the poor writing and messy pacing this run has had, nor did we need to wait this for a year. It doesn't feel like it's worth it. And this is coming from someone who has liked (parts of) this run and this storyline too.

Had the run started with this arc and then concluded with #900 with someone else dying, I feel like this would've worked a lot better. But, now as it is, this doesn't make this run retroactively better. It just makes me dislike editorial more.

So in conclusion/TLDR: not to the worst comic. Not the worst storyline (like seriously, Dark Web exists and it was WAY worse than this). Better than you might think it is. Ms Marvels' death still doesn't work, nor does storyline this save this run.

However, I won't give up on this run. I feel like we can FINALLY move forward and to some interesting storylines. And just move past... whatever this is. I still somewhat-ish trust Wells, but if you stop this run because of this storyline and how it was handled (Ms Marvel's death especially), I don't blame ya. more

I'm so cold on this event. Only few issues to go but the pacing, dialogue from Kelly and Lanzing is just not hitting the spot and the art just didn't work for me. To be fair though some action scenes were well illustrated and retro panels to Dimension Z were well planned and colored nicely by Woodard but I've been spoiled by Carnero and she is missed here.

It's a very interesting issue. After two issues of Eddie's journey, we are back with Dylan dealing with Osborns. I enjoyed what there was, but it felt a bit odd to place it here.

I do miss Ram V's writing for Dylan. I liked his voice for Dylan more than I do Ewing's.

I thought it was pretty solid. I like that it didn't feel complicated like a bunch of this series has. It was a good basic Venom issue.

Basic story yet still good from Al Ewing but I'm not really intrigued by this side of the Goblin nonsense. Roge Antonio did fine as fill in artist but Cafu is part of the backbone as to why I liked the previous issues. Also D'Armata's coloring especially the greens were weird. Not sure if he didn't adapt well to Antonio's art or printing issue or he was trying something new? Come back Cafu after you ice your arm. more

On its face, it's just a one eyed dude swimming in dead klyntar goo philosophizing to the hand but Al Ewing is writing this one so it's a pure joy to read. The way he goes around with his narrative to lay the connection to the king in black and the beyonders. I never bought into Knull's super villain level/threats from Cates' run even though he had me early one but it became cartoonish. Ewing cuts Knull at the knees and rebuilds in order to hopefully get Eddie away from that whole mess. We'll see if he can deliver on that. It is way too ambitious but man is it well done! Cafu is the perfect fit as his art is fantastic and so well detailed with no shortcuts taken and D'Armata kills it on colors. more

I like the run of the mill prep work that Duggan is doing here. Nothing fancy but just enough to tick all the boxes and put me in the seat for what's coming. Cassara makes it all look fantastic so that's always a plus. The way Cyclops's reflection on the floor was depicted in that one panel was perfect. His textures on the characters must've taken a long time to do and the inking. Man I hope he has a trick to speed up the process. This book has benefited from a great set of artists to keep me enjoying it. more

Unexpectedly great. The final scene is both epic and ridiculous (in a good way).

Venom has been dragging on for me lately, but this issue just seemed to hit more..can't really explain it

This is such a good time whenever Ewing has the reigns.

Wow.

Damn this is good.

Ewing and Cafu have me intrigued. I tried the first issue for this a while back and it didn't grab my attention and Hitch wasn't the right fit. Now with Cafu doing an awesome job on art and D'Armata on colors, I can see what Ewing is trying to do even with the dumbest and most awesome last page I've seen in a while.

This was fine but felt I was re-reading parts I already did with Ororo since similar beats were done in Immortal. Camagni on art was good.

I surprisingly like the reason why Mary Jane had moved on. I just don't understand why it's needed and I could care less about the villain.

It's a very lackluster story where all the beats are recycled from the time gap where the hero can't save the heroine and grew apart and blah blah and then add a very mediocre villain acting like a 50s idea of what a cliched bad guy would be. There is nothing here that inspires or infuses a hint of suspense of hope in building proper characters. A year wasted on the dumbest premise. Zeb Wells and the editors dropped the ball just like on Spencer's run. I don't have hope for ASM ever recovering and this title will continue to sell and top the charts riding on the 60 year old history of cool Thwips and slogans "With great power..." that are both celebrated yet are the main hinderance to its advancement. I will finish the arc then it's sayonara and I'm moving to trades because at least then I will have full arcs to pick and choose from. more

This could have been an OK issue if I cared even a little bit about Paul and Rabin, but they're both really just ciphers to make the plot go where it needs to, and the plot isn't interesting or meaningful enough to bear the weight alone. It's not a bad explanation of where MJ's new family came from, but it's not a terribly involving one either

Since when was issue #25 of any series a "Landmark issue?" Soon Marvel will be celebrating issue #5.

It isn't terrible but it isn't very good either. A very average 5 out of 10 and that's mostly for the art. Nothing much happens in this hyped-up and oversized issue. We learn where the kids came from. And that's about all. Disappointing.

I enjoyed the art, especially Kaare Andrews's pages. He draws the first part of the story which is set in the alternate New York where MJ is trapped with Paul. Andrews's art is refreshing. It's vibrant and suits the story well. He draws MJ looking like a shapely woman, obviously remembering that she is a supermodel. Some artists seem to have forgotten this.

John Romita Jr. does the art for the second part of the main story from when Peter reappears through the portal to rescue Mary Jane. It's a bit jarring after getting used to Kaare Andrews's style, but to be fair to Romita Jr., he draws a decent Fantastic Four and Captain America. I was surprised to see Marvel reuse some of Romita Jr.'s art from a couple of the earlier issues. I counted 4 or 5 pages of recycled art!

It's been made very clear that editorial want Peter to remain single. I understand the backlash to this by a lot of Spidey fans. What I don't undersand is why ASM is the top-selling monthly comic book, if you can believe the "figures." It has knocked Batman off the top spot. Bizarre.
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I must admit, I don't see the hate for this issue. Another "passable" one, that you can read. I didn't really feel anything for this issue. This 6-part storyline has felt very messy, oddly paced, but I hoped it would get better. Now it's just... meh.

There isn't anything really here for me to grab. Art was fine I suppose. MJ's backstory was... fine I suppose? Some twist with the kids, but otherwise the plot is very straight-forward and doesn't have any twists or interesting stuff to talk about.

Biggest problem here is the lack of good writing for the Scribbled Man Rabin. He was much more enjoyable and memorable in his BND appearance than he is now. I don't feel anything when I see him, he is not threatening, or particularly interesting. I just want him gone.

I can't wait for this storyline to be done. This past year of ASM has been very messy because of it, and I just wanna move on. I think Wells wants too.

If this is all this entire storyline will offer, it feel like a massive fake-out. A year worth of messy storytelling is not justified by this lackluster straigth-forward story with a forgettable villain. I sincerely hope I am wrong about this, since I still somewhat believe in Wells and want this run to succeed. more

The x-books continue to be bigger and better than everything else in my opinion and I wouldn't have it any other way. I loved this

This is absolutely incredible! I don't think it's possible to like some these current x-books more. The complex storylines are expertly written and drawn it leaves my so excited to see what happens next

ASM by Wells has a good back to form here but man that bad taste from the current run is still there so I'm not sure what to make of this. Gleason should be on the current run. I don't know why they're not putting him in the rotation because his art was phenomenal. I actually enjoyed the Venom tease because of the way Al Ewing makes this story with the goofiest symbiote enjoyable and especially with Cafu on art. I will pick it now and read back from issue 17 as suggested by other people. Again the Hickman tease is weak and I'll be skipping the whole Ultimate Universe stuff. more

This just makes it clear that Uncanny Avengers and X-Men will be tangled and necessary to follow Fall of X. Duggan-verse is here whether you like it or not. The Hickman tease is weak with nothing that makes me want to pick it up. Cassara and Garron are fantastic on art as always but the colors on Garron's figures especially the blue is weird...maybe a printer issue?

Having skipped Legion of X and not being 100% sure about what Spurrier was doing early on with Nightcrawlers, I read this expecting the worst but he has proved me wrong. It started too busy or I'm just unware of what transpired before to give events meaning but it picked up momentum midway and ended strong mostly thanks to the way he used Legion and Mother Righteous. Noto's art also surprisingly got stronger as the issue went along and had some nice splash moments. Noto to nit pick a bit, has to work on his full figure shots because upper bodies don't fit with the bottom parts making the characters weirdly uneven but that's me being picky. more

Legion of X/Nightcrawlers struggled under the weight of too many characters and plots; the coda here thrives on mostly just being a story about Mother Righteous (by far the most interesting part of LoX) and Legion (although he's primarily here as an antagonist to Mother), with a splash of resetting the status quo for various characters and of course the inevitable (and excellent) bridge into getting us back to focusing on Kurt in Uncanny Spider-Man. And of course Phil Noto's art is gorgeous and full of clever ideas. I particularly loved the use of digetic comics pages and panels to represent flashbacks to previous comics more