Ah damn, I'm sorry you felt that way for the artwork. I think Joe Quinones is a great artist. Oh well, to each their own. I have the book in hand I'm just not reading it until I rewatch Batman 1989 and Batman Returns just to refresh my memory.

yeah, i mean i saw that other people really liked the art. it's just personal preference. i've definitely heard other's dislike artists that i myself really enjoy. like Simon Bisley or Richard Corben. ... that's actually not a bad idea. maybe i'll give the movies each a re-watch, then try reading this again.

Yeah I think you should. After I watch Batman Returns, I'm gonna read this comic and then talk about how well it mimics the tone and feel of the Burton films.

did you get a chance to watche the Burton films then read the comic? how well did it hold to the tone of the films?

I did! I wrote a review for it if you want to check it out, but basically the gist of it is that the tone of the book matches the films in my opinion. It's not perfect but it's not entirely bad.

It's because there's one Red Hood fan who keeps making accounts to upvote himself.

I haven't read today's issue yet but I would 100% agree that this run is to DC as Daredevil is to Marvel: the two best superhero ongoings of their respective companies.

@The Dark Knight Detective it's also a coincidence that Nightwing and Daredevil have similar fighting styles. But I agree, I like Nightwing right now, dont know why a lot of people nitpick and hate it.

@daspidaboy I ask myself the same question. I don't know if they think the writing is genuinely bad or they have a negative bias towards the writer 🤷‍♂️

If you read the actual reviews of those who are detracting they are either Red Hood fanboys or conservatives who are triggered by facts about society

@Toonstrack: If you think I dislike this juvenile book because I'm a fan of Red Hood, you're even dumber than I thought. It's not either-or for me, I like Nightwing too. And your "facts"? Yeah, those are called opinions, might want to check a dictionary.

^^^See what I mean? Merlyn you're not the only one here trying and failing miserably to rag on this book. But you all fall into one of those categories. You collectively been at it since the first issue of the run. And facts aren't opinions. Facts are either correct or they aren't. Opinions are subjective. Facts are not.

You're right. Unfortunately what you deem as "fact" is actually an opinion. I know it may be hard for you but I'm sure with some help you can wrap your head around that.

Hey man, you're the one who feels the need to bring up Taylor's politics in every review and review those instead of the book.

That's because those politics ARE in the book, you're just either too dumb to notice or purposely pretend they aren't there.

So? Having politics you disagree with doesn't automatically make something bad. Theres a ton of other factors to consider when reviewing a story which you ignore at all times.

It used to be the case that, as Daniel Patrick Moynihan said, “You’re entitled to your opinions, you are not entitled to your own facts,” but that’s not true anymore. Ever since Kellyanne Conway defended a lie about Trump’s inauguration attendance by saying there we’re “alternative facts” and Trump started calling any news he didn’t like “fake news,” Trumpubicans believe they *are* entitled to their own facts including the invented from thin air rigged election.

Against everything I believe in, I have been persuaded, in large part, not to engage in this stuff because one can’t persuade a brainwashed person to listen to reason. So I’m just going to politely say, Merlyn, you stay out of my reviews and I’ll stay out of yours. And you can continue to peddle your “alternative facts” to your heart’s desire. Your reviews are commonly about politics but mine are not, so I think that’s only fair.

@Toonstrack: No, but it doesn't mean I should be forced to like that book.

@Batman Jones: Sure, that sounds fair. After I let you complain on my reviews how you don't like the way I speak and I was more than generous to try to comply with your requests, next thing I get from you is a rant about "Trumpblicans", fake news, alternative facts and other crazy stuff. Funny how you're talking about brainwashing without realizing how brainwashed you are talking like that. Serves me right when I try to be decent with assholes. Well, not anymore. Sure, I agree with your terms.

Merlyn: Having a consistently shitty, pretentious attitude about your comic OPINIONS towards everyone who doesn't watch Fox News 24/7 isn't trying to be "decent" by any stretch of the imagination. To quote the great Raylan Givens "If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day, you're the asshole." And you, without a doubt, run into assholes all day, night, week, and year.

July 8 2021 Joe Biden is asked if a takeover of Afghanistan is inevitable. Joe Biden: No it is not. He refuses to return the calls of the British PM for 36 hours. A reported 10K Anericans are in Afghanistan and have to get through Taliban checkpoints to get to Karzai airport. Afghan women are passing their babies to US soldiers to save them. Your better judgenent...lol.

Today British Parliament censured Joe Biden for his negligence to his responsibility to US allies in Great Britain. 2 Para units are running rescue missions in Kabul to save British citizens and Afghanis while the Biden Administration tell Amerucans there "you're on your own getting to the airport"....Trumplicans you say? LOL.

We ve run into assholes here alright...anyone that bought Bidens lies and actually voted for the dessicated husk. I ll leave you too "elevated" liberals to enjoy your humiliation together.

@Ming hey dumbfuck, do 5 seconds of research before you run off to dunk on someone. “Trump finally bypassed the Afghan government to negotiate directly with the Taliban. The deal with them that he signed on Feb. 29, 2020 promised to pull all U.S. troops out by May 1, 2021.” - NPR

“Baradar, currently the head of the Taliban’s political office in Doha, was freed from Pakistan in 2018 and is the most prominent of thousands of Taliban prisoners freed at the United States’s request in its efforts to promote failed peace talks between the Taliban and the Afghan government.” Trump was president in 2018 and his administration is responsible for releasing the current Taliban leadership from prison.

The entire situation in Afghanistan is horrible and has been caused by 40+ years of American and Soviet mismanagement. I’m not really sure what the answer is but I pretty strongly believe it’s not continuing to fight a forever war alongside permanent occupation.

I loved the first issue of the run and liked this one. I didn't like the issues inbetween and not because of Red Hood or politics. It was because we were getting fan service over story. This issue gives fan service moments, but they push the story forward. I am a huge Nightwing fan so seeing Blockbuster isn't going to wow me, but seeing him go after Dick in this issue was awesome! Heartless finally gets some setup and Dick uses the money to help everyone, especially the homeless kids.

Also, for 3-4 issues Tom Taylor was just telling us that everyone loves Dick Grayson, where this one he showed why they love him through Nightwing's actions.

Nice to have you here, Weird Science Jim. I dig your reviews and I can get behind what you’re saying even if the fan service is more than enough for me after so many issues of Nightwing not being Nightwing. Still I hear you and don’t disagree. Thanks for popping in. Don’t be a stranger.

@Weird Science Jim. No one is complaining about you. They're complaining about the obvious review bombing from newly made accounts, and that one idiot who thinks everything is an attack on his precious Trump.

@Weird Sciene Jim I can agree with you (at least to an extent). I'm a first-time Nightwing reader and I've been loving it so far. I appreciate the love Dick Grayson is getting so far in this series but I think now is the time to see him go through some tough obstacles and challenge the hero.

Not gonna get deep into the Afghanistan pullout because nuance is dead here, but "Afghani" is a currency. Calling the Afghan people "Afghanis" is basically telling everyone in the room that you don't know anything about the conflict.

Dummy the real joker is the comedian 😂. Can’t read ha?

Also King understands the characters more than Geoff Johns shows how stupid you are

Also the point of the killing joke was that the joker is an unreliable narrator. Also the one bad day thing isn’t pointless since he still thinks they are dead.

Geoff Johns writes fan fiction.

Yet you can’t say what’s fan fiction about this

@VicSav So since you have zero arguments& didn’t understand this basic story you have to insult me? Or are you just butthurt, because I criticized your favorite writer& that’s why you act all aggressive & emotional?

i agree with most of your review, except for the part where you said Geoff Johns is "worse than King". .... NO, my friend!!! ain't NO ONE worse than King!! that guy's the worst of the worst!!

@myconius Right you are. Geoff Johns is easily a better writer than King and he'll never reach that level.

@The Dark Knight Detective - thank you! ... OH! absolutely. ....i may not care for Johns' writing on Batman, but his Superman, Aqualman and Green Lantern writing are great!!! he has a good sense of how to tell uplifting inspiring stories. i've not yet read his Flash. but i hear good things. ... Tom King on the other hand likes to peddle stories about depression and PTSD, as if he'd not already outed himself as a one-trick pony ages ago. he just writes every character as pathetic and sad.

@myconius I don't know what specifically King went through and did while he was in the CIA but whatever it is must've shook him. There's also the consideration of his own personal life. However, that doesn't mean that every one of his stories should be about depression and PTSD. I don't read comics for torture porn or for characters being miserable UNLESS it's done well and it brings a bit of hope and inspiration in the end.

i heard this ended on a huge FLOP.

@myconius The ending certainly left people divided that's for sure. I'm of the half that enjoyed it but that's just me personally.

it might not be accurate but from what i'd heard the story of the 3 Jokers was built up like a mystery, then at the end Batman was just like "Yeah. I knew who he was the whole time." ....that sort of renders the entire mystery aspect as moot. though from what i'd seen of the art, it definitely looks worth a trade copy for that alone. but my collection is already long since toppling over itself with so many pretty stories that i just cannot get myself to re-read.

When it comes to the comics I have on my shelf, if it's been a long time since I read the story and I have no intention on rereading it any time soon, I just give it away either by selling it or donating it to my local library. But if the artwork is absolutely gorgeous, I'll just keep it on my shelf if the story isn't terrible and just skim through it like it's an art book.

On your comment on why Nakano doesn't like Batman: the answered was revealed in a story from Detective Comics #1027. I won't spoil it unless you ask me to.

Also, I have been enjoying this run even though I'm behind. I'm trade-waiting this series and I've read up to and including Joker War and I find this run really entertaining, with huge props to Jorge Jimenez: my favorite artist to grace the pages of Batman in the last 10+ years and the best since Capullo.

As for Nick Spencer's Spider-Man, I skipped King's Ransom and Chameleon Conspiracy but I'm coming back in for his finale with Sinister War. I really hoping it delivers and Spencer gives a strong ending to his run. If he doesn't, I'm gonna be avoiding fan reactions like the Black Plague because those reactions would NOT be pretty.

Same here @The Dark Knight Detective! Looks like we both have similar tastes which is great. But yeah, I would love for you to tell me on why Nakano doesnt like Batman. And I agree, I actually like Tynion's Batman run. I like Joker War as well, it was my favorite crossover event of 2020 and I prefer it slightly more than King in Black.

Also, you blocked me for some reason.

Basically Nakano hates Batman because during the Joker War there was a situation in which Nakano's partner died and he blames Batman for it. Also, I must've blocked you by mistake. Should be fixed now though!

As for best crossovers in 2020, I think I would agree on Joker War being my favorite, although I never read King in Black since I couldn't afford it at the time.