THE GOOD:

-I didn't hate the art? I really miss Nick Derington though. For all of the flaws of Gerard Way's original 12-issue run, at least the art was always a pleasure.

-I liked Cliff… a lot actually. I don't remember much about him from the original 12 issue run, so he couldn't have been written that well there. But his story here was great. The only parts of the issue I really enjoyed, if I'm being honest.

THE BAD:

-Sigh. More Gerard Way. Yay… This seems to check all the Gerard Way DP boxes… lazy writing (check), forced weirdness (check), weak characters (check…mostly).

-I don't like Casey at all. In the first Gerard Way series, she was an unnecessary new character who was always shallow as hell. Here she's even worse. I don't think I've read a Doom Patrol run with more dull characters. And Doom Patrol is a series that essentially relies on exactly the opposite. So right there, he's missed the core of the series.

-Man, I do not like how this artist draws Rita. At. All.

-This whole thing felt so shallow. It might look like the "good old Doom Patrol" on the surface, but the story is weak as hell, and it's a drag to read. Especially considering how contrived all the "weirdness" is.

-As if Gerard Way didn't do a bad enough job on the plotting, Jeremy Lambert comes in and gives us this awful script.

-The "Marathon World" maybe could've been done better by a good writer, but here it was just painfully stupid. The execution made it feel like a really bad Cartoon Network show, or even an Illumination movie. more

THE GOOD:

-This was good. I liked it. It's definitely my least favorite issue thus far, but still, not bad.

-The art was pretty great. I'm loving the look of this book.

-I think the first page was my favorite part. Amazing emotion, with very few words. Well done.

-Zombie Birds of Prey was a great moment.

-The Atlantis scene, while mostly used just to give us an update on that character, was still pretty damn awesome.

-Zombie Clayface may be the best zombie yet. Just such a cool portrayal. Also, genuinely creepy.

-Damn, can this man write endings or what?

THE BAD:

-I didn't really like Harley Quinn here. I thought her portrayal was good in the last issue, but here she was really annoying. Still miles better than HiC's take on Harley, though.

-I'm hoping this series will become more than just a collection of scenes in the future. The comic is losing it's flow. The plot isn't advancing very quickly, which definitely makes the unnecessary scenes stand out more. more

THE GOOD:

-This was a pretty good issue. It's still far from the best this series can be, however.

-The art is really great. I love it.

-I liked the sword and sorcery take on Green Lantern. That was fun.

-I don't know how I'm gonna feel about next issue, but I can't wait to see more of that stoner Lantern.

THE BAD:

-I don't really feel like this warranted a whole issue, story-wise. Especially considering the story continues into issue 10, so it's not self-contained.

-Eh, I'm not crazy about an alternate earth storyline. Those have never been my favorite, and the end of this issue was rather predictable. Nothing like the crazy twist ending in issue 7. more

THE GOOD:

-Now this was a great issue. I loved it start to finish.

-Man, that opening sequence was so good. I love Hell. Er… this comic's portrayal of hell. That's better. Ah, the things this wacky series makes me say…

-This comic is very complex and intricate, yet it's not afraid to have some dope-ass action sequences.

-I'm liking Harpy… a lot, actually. More than I even anticipated at first.

-Joe Bennet is great, Al Ewing is great. I hope to see more projects in the future from this creative team.

-Once again, this comic pulls off the WTF ending perfectly.

THE BAD:

-Nah. I had a pretty rough week, yet this comic made my day. I could maybe be nitpicky and find little flaws, but I just don't feel like it. more

The stuff with Cliff Steele was good... Mostly. The stuff with Jude Law forcing fat people to be muscular was not. I don't like weirdness for the sake of it and that's all that was. I wasn't the biggest fan of Way's first run because of it, and that was before I started reading Morrison's run. Now having read some of that, it just makes this feel even more inferior by comparison. But... There are glimpses of hope. Like I said, the Cliff stuff was mostly well done, and it's the only reason I'm invested at all. more

Words cannot truly express the level of disappointment that I have with this book, but I will try.

First, Gerard Way was allowed to totally disregard the fact that the DC Universe streaming service delivered a critically acclaimed season of live-action Doom Patrol. Instead, he started the book -- a first issue, mind you -- announcing that this was issue 13 of his arc. Right off the bat, new readers from the TV show are going to wonder what in the world is going on.

And I did.

But fear not! Way has an editor, and the editor has editor's notes! Those notes are plastered throughout this book in the same manner that you plastered Beth's cubicle with post-its as a prank for her birthday. They are EVERYWHERE throughout the book. Is it helpful? Kind of. It's also an implicit admission by DC editorial that this book makes no sense to the new reader. The script should have been scrubbed before it went to the artist. No book should need this many explanatory reference notes. Total tone-deafness on Way and DC's part.

EXAMPLE: Danny is a street in the tv show. He's an ambulance -- with a theme park inside! -- in the book. Of course, that's only explained in an editor's note...so you have to run this strangeness through a translator because both what we saw on tv and what we are reading on the page is wacked out, each in its own way.

Way's best writing came in the closing pages with Cliff Steele trying to rebuild personal relationships. The emotions are deep, and the pain is palpable. (And while an editor's note may have been useful to tell us that Robotman is no longer a robot but instead a human figure...it wasn't there. Maybe editorial burnt through their quota of notes in the first 20 pages.)

I'm wanted to enjoy this book, but reading it was so incredibly hard. It's obtuse to begin with being Doom Patrol, then it was mind-numbingly self-referential because it picked up on a storyline that newcomers like me did not know. Not an enjoyable read in the least.

I sure hope Gerard Way had a big audience with his last run, because he kneecapped his chances for big circulation growth.

I know my rating is low, and it's only as high as it is because the art isn't bad. more

THE GOOD:

-This series won't give me a break. If you're not reading it, you're missing out.

-I don't know how Andrea Sorrentino does it. He's a god. That's the only rational explanation for how he can put out such amazing art so consistently.

-Damn, the character work is great here. Wilfred's internal conflicts are becoming more dark and complex by the page and Angie is so goddamn compelling.

-Holy shit, this issue scared me. That Rebecca scene was absolutely terrifying.

-Jeff Lemire can write. I cannot wait for these guys' Joker comic.

-This provided a satisfying update to the second arc's finale. I can't wait to see Norton and Clara's issue.

THE BAD:

-After an excellent three-issue story arc, I will say that this issue is not quite as good as the last few issues. It's still fantastic, however. more

THE GOOD:

-Hahahahaha…. goddamn, this was funny. I may have underestimated this series from it's preview in the Leviathan Rising special.

-I love the format for this comic. It's perfect for a silly little series like this. Whether or not it will hold up for twelve issues… we'll have to see.

-"It's the Falls That'll Kill Ya" was a perfect opener. It wasn't overly silly, which made the end payoff more funny and satisfying. And Lieber's art captures this little story's dry humor perfectly.

-Speaking of, Lieber's got some impressive art. And not just from a comedic perspective, although it can be really funny.

-"New in Town" was honestly the funniest story here.

-BWOARK.

-I need to see a six issue prequel series about each of those flashback panels where Jimmy wrecks the city.

THE BAD:

-I mean it's no masterpiece. Just a silly little series that I'll enjoy reading every month. more

THE GOOD:

-Damn, the script was good. Al Ewing is an incredibly talented writer.

-This issue is yet another example of just how dark mainstream comics can get.

-Hm, this issue actually made me care about General Fortean, which means it's effective because I never did before.

-Damn that ending was trippy, weird and unexpected.

THE BAD:

-Ugh, the guest artist was killing me. This issue would have been sooo good if Joe Bennett had illustrated it. more

THE GOOD:

-Hey! Mitch Gerads is here! I didn't know that! Tony Daniel's art was good, but in my opinion Gerads' was superior in its atmosphere, truly capturing the "apocalyptic" Gotham this issue is trying to sell. Plus he is not only a fantastic penciller, but a damn good color artist.

-This wasn't as bad as the last few issues.

THE BAD:

-There is no way on this planet that Tom: King of Filler deserves a an extra sized $4.99 issue.

-This comic is supposed to be about the villains taking over Gotham, which is a fun concept, yet it's kind of ruined by the villains having absolutely no personality whatsoever.

-Wow. I wasn't expecting this comic to give me so many flashbacks to my freshman year of high school. There was that reference to the Trojan War, which I learned a lot about in English. Then that story with the farmer and the horse and his son, which I remember my math teacher telling me for whatever reason. Not sure why I'm talking so much about this, not that anyone cares. And before all the commenters start telling me I'm a terrible reviewer or whatever, the reason this is in the bad section is because Tom King needs to stop using fables and whatnot in place of actual story.

-Ugh. More Gotham Girl.

-I DON'T CARE IF IT WAS THE BOAT OR THE GODDAMN STREET! AND STOP TRYING TO MAKE ME CARE!

-At least the other Luthor pages in the Villain of the Week "tie-ins" were just that. One page. Yet Tom King had to devote a whole 8-page backup story to a conversation between Luthor and Bane. more

Not a bad issue, but Year of the Villains is pretty slow& despite its name, we don’t see many villains in it up until now. Sure it’s not Year of the Heroes ( oh wait that’s every year anyway)? Instead of concentrating on the villains, Lex is trying to make his offer to many heroes as well. This time it’s Martian Manhunter. What’s weird, that Lex‘s outfit looks like he borrowed it from Desaad.
While Lex is talking to J‘onn, the league is facing 3 members of the legion of doom, which is quite underwhelming.
There’s also a timeline error. Batman is fighting in the league, while in Kings Batman run he just broke his back& is somewhere walking in the mountains. Year of The Villains just doesn’t fit well with some runs, what’s sad.
Overall I want the focus more on the villains as the title is promising. Forever Evil, Arkham War& Underworld Unleashed all did a better job so far. more

What the hell did I just read? How long since the last issue? Why was Catwoman on the mountain? I get everyone is probably being controlled by Psycho Pirate but it’s still stupid. Nobody sounds right which I’m sure will be chalked up to being controlled but that only changes their emotions, not their entire personalities. What was with the stupid ass story of the man walking up the mountain? I guess Thomas just has utter contempt for his son and treats his old pal Alfred like shit as well. This was complete and utter bullshit. So standard King writing. I hate it with a fiery passion at this point. It never gets better because King can’t seem to write a coherent story. How anyone could claim this is a 10/10 perfect comic is beyond me. At what point do you realize you’re just a sycophantic fanboy? King cannot get off this soon enough. Hell, I hope he goes to write for Tv and leaves comics altogether. more

I do not understand how people are giving this (and other books) 10/10. That is a perfect score. You are saying this book is perfect and there were no faults. Yet these people give 10s almost every book they review. It is a joke!!

This book was the usual Tom King nonsense. No build up, big wow moments that are supposed to make you think its good, pretentious dialogue, the usual random, usually, stolen stories that have nothing to do with anything, and characters that act nothing like the characters they are supposed to be.

I can not wait to enjoy Batman again when King is gone. more

Dropped.

I’m not wasting my money on a book with terrible dialogue and half baked ideas, incomplete story telling and changing character motivations. I’d rather spend my money on an indie book. I wish I picked up Kelly sue’s aquman when she started and dropped this then.

I can't say this enough....I can't wait for DC to get Tom King off of Batman!

THE ART IS FABULOUS.

I mean really, the art is good but this is the only score I can give to this issue because of the defect harms me so much.

I have never seen a batman story not logical as this and it seems the wtitter DO NOT has the ability to write a hero like batman. This superhero IS A DETECTIVE and I haven't seen deductive reasoning or direct inference for a lonnnnnnng time. A good story need to tell people the reason and results IN ONE PLOT, not just shipping his own cancer from the beginning to the end to all the readers who just want to see exellenct stories of a DETECTIVE, or not just writting sloppy, moody, sickly fables, fairy tales or conceit instead a brilliant man.

To be true, I don't need a comic writer to teach me philosophy， psychology， criminology or sociology, who is not professional at all. What I need is just wonderful stories. The whole story is far more to be called a "story", rather than a fanfiction on AO3 to express the writer's own mental illness. The failure on HIC and Batman series has already showed that this one is not capable for a superhero who has his own character established on issues already published for decades, and I will never spend my money and time wasting on this again.

Abobe all, the writer lack of literary attainments and all the depth he showed just a werid remix of NML, TDKR and other classic bat-comics. It will be good for batman to remove this writer from the team, and I will be back at that moment. more

Oh brother. King's Gotham is just silly. It's up is down wrong is right, evil is good. And that's just silly. We learn that Thomas Wayne is Batman and uses Gotham Girl to enforce things. Hugo Strange is the commissioner and Joker and Riddler are cops. Psycho Pirate "cures" the insane and we see him do that with Two-Face.

Meanwhile we see a traveler walk in the snowy mountains being getting narration RIPPED OFF from the Tom Hanks movie "Charlie Wilson's War." It's a mess. We still get King's pet love of Batman insisting He and Selina met on a boat, and Selina saying they met on the streets.

Does Thomas Wayne have the ability to separate Gotham from the rest of the Justice League. In the old days when kids would stay off my lawn, team-ups were a thing, but each DC title was really its own little world. And that worked because of the social contract between writers and readers.

Sure Superman or Flash could solve all of Batman's problems by helping capture villain of the week. But the book is a Batman one, so we assume Superman or the Flash are off in their books doing their thing and don't thing too hard about how it really would be logical for Batman to call for Super help all the time.

But in this new much more interconnected world of comics, all the other DC heroes are going to ignore the fact that Gotham is being run by villains who have multiple murders on their rap sheets. I don't care if Psycho Pirate made them sane, that's just a bridge too far.

Also having the Joker be "curable" by Psycho Pirate really diminishes the Joker. He is mysterious and unknowable. Having him have an actual mental illness is just . . . degrading to the character.

And stop having Bane boast about how he broke the Bat and there's no way the Bat will come back, yep the Bat is broken and I am putting my fingers in my ears and shouting LAH, LAH, LAH I can't hear yo.

The breaking of the Bat with Bane has already been done. You can buy the trades in your local book store. It's not like this arc has been forgotten. King you are just walking on ground that's been well tread on.

What bothers me is that King really does think this is original great stuff. He's ripping off previous arcs and Charlie Wilson's War and he thinks he's the greatest thing since Stan Lee.

Meanwhile things like actual plot, actual pacing and actual characterization suffer. The villains are cardboard, the secondary players are ignored and the romance between Bruce and Selina is told and not shown. AARRGGHH.

Or I could be wrong. more

I don’t think this issue is that bad. Tony S Daniel‘s art is awesome& I wish he drew the entire issue. I was never a fan of Mitch Gerard‘s art. It feels too rushed.
As for the plot we are getting a glimpse of how Bane‘s city looks like ( which is basically Arkham War 2.0., but with less fun)& at least many villains made an appearance. There are some funny ideas like Hugo Strange as the Commissioner or Joker& Riddler as cops. Those are quite random though& Scarecrow’s& Joker’s team up during Knightfall was way more fun. King also writes a weird& unfun Joker. Speaking of Scarecrow. Of course there's as good as every villain in this issue except Scarecrow ( can’t blame him though). But what annoys me, that King gives a loser like Psycho Pirate such a big role in this. King overpowers him and makes him control every other villain. If it was that easy Psycho Pirate ( a shame I even have to mention a D villain like him) would have controlled Gotham years ago. I however find it positive, that Thomas didn’t kill villains like Two Face, who didnt want to play along considering his Flashpoint days. I hope that stays this way. It better does!
As for Bruce he’s somewhere in the mountains& meets Catwoman ( if she was just an illusion, it would make sense, but since this is King I wouldn’t be surprised if it was her for real). That’s one thing, what ruins this issue for me, because I’m quite annoyed by this Batcat crap King is forcing on us.

This issue also still faces many problems& plotholes. There are still questions King refuses to answer:

-Why& how is Flashpoint Batman even in the canon timeline?
-Bane‘s plan is still dumb& unbelievable especially because Bruce went through worse than a breakup.
-If Thomas brings Ventriloquist into the batcave wouldnt he know Bruce’s real identity?
- As if the JL or the batfamily wouldn’t do anything against Bane.
- Wasn’t it stated, that Gotham Girl is going to die, if she used her powers once more?

This issue also suffers from Kings typical problem the bad dialogue. Especially the way Gotham Girl talked was bad. Why is it so hard for King to write a decent dialogue?

This issue also ties in Years of the Villains& that’s where it makes zero sense. In JL Bruce is Batman& there is no problem with Gotham mentioned. I also doubt he would hang out with the others, if Gotham just fell into anarchy. Kings story doesn’t fit with the big event at all& I also have the feeling, that many villains will be wasted once again here. Another reason, why King‘s story is nowhere near as great as Knightfall, since the villains had great stories during Knightfall& werent wasted. more

There's some cool ideas here, but also so many Tom King tropes. I don't like these tropes so it really hurts this book. I feel like his dialogue is just getting more and more ridiculous and Bendis-like. I feel like this issue ignores a lot of what came before just for the sake of having "cool" moments. Some of which could be explained, easily, but I don't think they will be. This run is built on moments, not cohesive storytelling. I feel like that is a problem many newer, aspiring writers have. I certainly do. I don't know how long King has been writing, but it seems he does as well. You want the big moments, because those are exciting and interesting to write, but you need the in between moments. Those are what make your story truly work. I feel like that's a big part of why I don't really care about anything that happens in this issue. This wasn't the worst issue, but I can't say I'm excited for the next one. I'm just left with a feeling of apathy. more

You know, I love elseworlds. They aren't restricted by strict continuity rules of the main DC universe. What stops Superman's capsule from landing in CCCP? Or Joker going sane and becoming a politician, backed by one Harley and fought by another? Or Flash going back in time to save his mom, creating a dystopian world where Atlanteans and Amazons went to war with each other, and that war lead the world to the brink of absolute destruction?
King flirted with elseworlds before, just to mention the dystopian Gotham Booster Gold saw in this run. This time he introduced us to yet another weird "bad" continuity, simultaneously adding random parts with Bruce and Gotham Girl. What story he's trying to tell us exactly, I don't know. Not only because the comic is super convoluted, but because it probably is constructed this way, so we don't know what's going on til the very end.

I'm conflicted on this one, because it's so... random and disorganized. If anything, this should have been a part of the (failed) Knightmares arc, since it really feels like a fever dream.
So, what's next? I guess Batman impregnates Selina, and gets killed by Gotham Girl, since these two plot points remain unresolved. Other than that, I have no clue. I just want King to finish his run and step down. Just go away and make some space for a new writer who hopefully understands Batman as a character. more

more random, all-over-the-place, decompressed, pseudo intellectual gibberish.

nothing was properly set up. we are just thrust into Gotham being run by villains with Flashpoint Batman in charge of Wayne Manor and the Bat-cave.

meanwhile Bruce is marching out in a snow blizzard in some undefined mountains. where? why? who knows? Bruce is asking for someone called 'The Memory of the Mountain', but gets his throat slashed and his head bashed with a crowbar by two nobody punks. then all the sudden Catwoman is there, just because.

Bane gives a speech about how the Justice League won't come in and stop his havoc on Gotham because he'll threaten innocents. yeah. i totally buy that . . . . NOT! and the reason Bane even wants Gotham? who knows?

this is just beyond pretentious and dumb.

at least the Tony Daniel portion of art was nice, and we no longer have to worry about this going on till issue 100. hopefully DC will renumber this series after #85. just start fresh. more

I think Bats and Spectre have an interesting combative dynamic on a team. This honestly just made me want to see Kyle Hotz draw a lot more Spectre. With the pattern of appearances of certain underused characters since Rebirth mostly always leading to a series, I actually do expect a new Spectre series soon.

Good issue. Batman& Spectre continue to search for Corrigan. The interaction between Batman& the Spectre is fun to read. I like how Batman forces his no killing rule on the Spectre. All characters are in character & it’s also great to see Bruce doing some detective work.

The art is also awesome. Hotz‘s art reminds me a lot of the art from the 90ies.

Tom King is awful part #74 ... #11ToGo

What to say. Basically “oh brother” covers it. The two bats get to the pit. While walking they do some talking.

Dad says Bruce was a whiner who always cried when dad would read him Russian folk tales from issue 57.

He said he wanted Bruce to be his own man, and once mom is restored that will happen for reasons.

Bruce says he always wanted to hear the stories because he hoped they would change so he was stubborn like mom, oh he buried her body in the desert so putting it in the extra special pit won’t work.

They fight. Dad is wearing heavy gear and a duster while Bruce is just wearin his cowl from the waist up. I guess he is not afraid of severe sun burn and sun poisoning.

They fight in the pit. Cut to top, and we see a gloved hand. Is it dad’s, is it Bruce’s? (It will be bruce’s).

Once again we get a writer adding backstory to a very old character. This back story explains all. I do not like this because instead of forging ahead, it just reworking the same old past. And the results are always dismissing returns.

Again, story unfolds so slowly. The art does not provide compelling action that tells its own story. Just single shots of men throwing punches.

Dad’s statement of now that you are broken down you can rise is so on the nose, That I guess King really hates subtext.

This run isn’t exciting. It’s just long and drawn out. It seems like the trek through the desert - never ending and dreary.

Or I could be wrong. more

Yay! More useless garbage by Tom King. Again, please remove him from any of DC's main books!

This is the final issue of the „Fall& the Fallen“arc& compared to the Knightmare arc we at least get some story progression: Bruce& Flashpoint Batman are fighting in the desert. In the end someone climbs out of the hole, but we don’t know yet, who it will be. However there are many plotholes, unanswered questions& missed opportunities, that make it impossible for me to enjoy it.

Minor SPOILER WARNING:
The entire plot here is a retelling of the fairy tale from issue 57& it’s a missed opportunity, that King rather retells an already known story instead of concentrating of one of his more interesting ideas: the reviving of Martha. This is kept way too short& just shortly mentioned. Out of nowhere it’s stated, that Bruce sneaked away while Thomas was sleeping& burried Martha somewhere in the desert. It would have been by far more interesting& more exiting, if Thomas actually went through with it& we would get a Pet Cemetery like story. Or if Bruce at least had to fight for stopping him. It sure would have been more dramatic. It’s also without any emotion. You could think, that it’s a terrible experience for Bruce being forced to take the rotten corpse ( or more likely a handful of dust) of his mother& bury her somewhere at a place, where he can’t visit her grave anymore. Nothing of this inner conflict of the characters is adressed by King. His characters are pale& bland. It’s also not only a missed opportunity, it’s also unbelievable. King wants the reader to believe, that Bruce, whose back was just broken would be able to lift a corpse& coffin& bring it to a place somewhere in the desert. His writing is just without any logic. Instead of that King is trying to focus on the relationship between Bruce& Flashpoint Batman.

SPOILER Ending
This never goes deep& a reason for that is, that King never cared to show us any scenes about what Bruce actually thinks about his father from a different timeline. We still don’t get any explanations for why& howThomas is even here & his motivations still are illogical. At the end Bruce seems to realize, that this isn’t his father, but since Bruce isn’t a fool this realization feels way too late. Since the portrayal of Banes plan was a big mess in earlier issues, it’s also unbelievable, when Thomas tells Bruce, that he was broken.
Overall nothing of Kings story is fitting together& I fear this won’t change in the last 11 ( I think) issues.

As for the art, it feels rushed for me& drawing Thomas with Ben Afflecks Nightmare Batman outfit is an odd choice in my opinion. It also makes no sense drawing Bruce half naked, since in the desert he either gets a sunburn during the day or is in danger to freeze at night.


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How does bruce fight? It was spelled out last issue that he was still messed up and healing from major back surgery???

Lets see, King uses a folk tale he’s already used previously and then repeats it in the same story. Still no resolution on how Thomas is in this world. Bruce gets into a straight up fight while still healing from a broken back and then being sling across the back of a horse. This is just more bullshit. People seem to think it’s some sort of genius writing but it’s mostly just pretentious bullshit that tells the reader nothing. It’s one nonsense filler issue after another and I can’t wait till it’s over. King seems to have big ideas so hopefully he does better writing movies where a more competent writer can fill in the details. As for this issue, if you haven’t bought it already, don’t bother. more

Last issue was, I thought aat least, a moment of twist, which will, finally, resuscitate the series and add some, any, story to it, especially since DC editorial decided to pull the plug to his run earlier (and thank goodness for that). This week all I can do is admit my failure. I was wrong, the comic leads absolutely nowhere, it's devoid of any substance, and King, despite having only half of year to conclude his story, still decides to add even more filler to it.

The story of this issue could be summarized in barely one sentence. You ready? Bruce buries his mother somewhere on the desert so she can't be resurrected, which pisses of Thomas and they fight. The end.
The rest of this issue is dedicated to meaningless conversations regarding the old public domain story about animals in the pit eating each other. It's boring, and once more makes an empty circle referencing something King said a while ago with no actual purpose. He's known for these recycled loops.

On top of that, the story doesn't even add up. Think about it - if Martha Wayne is buried somewhere under the sand, Bruce had to take her body after Thomas fell asleep, and return before he woke. So, if we assume he's slept for ~8 hours, which is the healthy standard for adults, Bruce's "trip"couldn't be longer than 4 hours at average in one direction. Average walking speed of a human is 5km/h in perfect conditions, and I'll use it as a reference, since Bruce is in peak form, and I will also ignore harsh ground conditions slowing him down, weigth of his mother's corpse, as well as time required to bury her properly, so animals don't dig her up and eat. So we're left with a circle around their camp, with ~20km radius. In practice I'd expect it to be way smaller. With Thomas sleeping for 6 hours, Bruce walking 3km/h and spending 1 hour to bury Martha, it would have ~7.5km radius at most. Thomas should be able to find the camp's location, more or less, since he knows which direction he and Bruce came from, and how long did it take them. With that knowledge, finding the body would be a matter of using some high caliber radar able to detect anything with density other than sand's. Since duh, it's comics. more