Tim Drake goes to make peace with Batman before he leaves Gotham. Superstar writer Tini Howard makes her DC debut on a Nightwing, Oracle, and Batgirls holiday spectacular. Azrael faces down the new villain THE POOR FELLOW. And Tweedle Dum has to make a grave decision.
Batman: Urban Legends #10 brings the holiday cheer with a heap of wonderfully-illustrated and heartfelt stories. Read Full Review
Overall, the two main stories were excellent enough to make this one of the best issues of the series. Read Full Review
Batman: Urban Legends #10 continues to be quite the playground for all things Batman-related. Each story's different but continues to weave a thread of connection among the Bat-Family. I appreciate this title so much as there's a lot to explore with each character. This book is as needed as The Brave and the Bold was when I was a child! Read Full Review
Batman: Urban Legends #10 is a great example of why the best version of the Batman Family is when they are united. The stories starring Batman, Red Robin, and Nightwing solidify this fact. In the process we get a lot of great character work that uses all the developments in their lives that makes this a can't miss comic book for Batman fans. Read Full Review
All in all Batman: Urban Legends #10 is the perfect book for fans of the Bat-family and the holidays, and easily deserves a recommendation. Read Full Review
Batman Urban Legends #10 is a mixed bag of good and bad, but that's pretty much par for the course when it comes to this title. Meghan Fitzmartin continues her Tim Drake story and Tini Howard debuts with a Nightwing holiday tale. Thow in the surprising good Tweedledum story and some good art, and I can recommend this, even if it is to avoid looking like a Scrooge during the holiday season. Read Full Review
The Tim story had some subtle touches in it that I really think made it work. Having Batman, Tim's father figure, accept him without any hesitation is not only exactly what Batman should and would do, it's also what so, so many LGBT kids want. The leading cause of suicide among LGBT teens and young adults is being rejected by their parents for their sexuality or gender identity. I know some people here bristle at that acceptance as something degenerate, but they can go fuck themselves. Another thing, Batman treating the people of Gotham with compassion is what we should want from the character. He's a hero, he can be a dark one, but what's the solution there? Beat the citizens into compliance? Please.
The Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum story had its moments, but it was probably the weakest addition here. It just doesn't work as well as anything else. The writing is obvious and this feels like a step down from the previous issue.
The Azrael story was probably the least impactful story here, but Dan Watters can write the hell out of even benign stories, so it's a joy to read. Not much to say about it, however.
The Nightwing story is probably my favorite one. I feel like Tini Howard nails Nightwing's character, and this is a fun, sweet Christmas Carol story that I can get behind. more
Tim's story was okay, Batman and Dick did seem a little out of character where Batman just hugs the citizens or Dick being angry at his brother coming to him for advice. but it also had some good details like Dick telling Tim
" I know you have gotten comfortable going back to being Robin while Damian is out of Town. But he's Earned That name now. and you ... you deserve your own future."
this was need for Tim, he needs a new identity even in this issue being robin makes him look small and the art only helps that statement. and Damian is having amazing arc with Robin shows that let Damian be Robin he has to move on. so Tims story gets 6/10
Nightwing's story was okay to, the thing was it was really expected, scarecrow villains meaning fear gas. hence hime going throw a fear illusion sequence and ending with a happy ending of Christmas. 7/10
Azrael's story was not bad either it was nice but I don't have much thoughts on that for some reason. over all 8/10 more
Sadly, Tim's story was medicare at best.
Both Nightwing and Batman were out of character in the story and read more like alternate versions of themselves, with Batman hugging random Gothamites and Nightwing scolding Tim for coming to him when he needs advice.
The bright side of the story was hinting that Tim is about to move on from being Robin, but that was more or less the only part of the story that really made sense.
Overall, it was just disappointing. Instead of getting a story of Tim coming out to his family, hanging with Bernard, talking with Steph, we got a story with OOC Batman and Nightwing, no Steph, no real story, with Tim's new relationship sidelined.
The other stories were better, and Nightwing's story was the best of the bunch. Tini Howard did a good job portraying Dick, showing an interesting take on him. more
Hoping the next issue can revitalize the series, it’s really taken a turn for the worse and it’s disheartening to see
Tim Drake - 6.5/10, this issue was quite bland but it had some heart
Tweedle Dee & Dum - 5.5/10, boring
Azrael - 9/10, amazing
Nightwing - 3/10, Tini Howard can't write, I couldn't even get through this one
Its a shame, this series seemed so promising when it started, but each issue has just sunk lower and lower
Tim's story was terrible both Batman and Nightwing were out of character, there was no solid plot and DC doesn't know what to do with Tim... 2/10
T&T was ok-ish, nothing terrible, but by tomorrow I'll forget everything I read in it 5/10
Azrael was pretty damn good, super solid writing by Dan Watters and interesting art by Nikola Cizmesija 8/10
Nightwing was not bad too, Tini Howard has a good voice for nightwing and Christian Duce's art has a quality standart 7/10
Most of the stories are mediocre but the Tim Drake one is just cringey on all levels. Never mind that Tim being bi still sounds like fanfic and makes zero sense, the way Batman acted, the way the characters talked, the horrendous art, all was just so awful on a level a comic company like DC shouldn't ever produce. Seriously, it was just horrible.
From the little I've seen of fitzmartins writing of anything batman she seems to have trouble giving the main characters familiar voices. The males dont think or speak like males they speak like.. well like chicks or like caricatures of males. That's a pretty serious problem for a writer on a batman book.
If her goal is to feminize Tim Drake shes well on the way. He s started to sound like a teenaged girl. Batman once again is portrayed as a cardboard cutout.
The Tim story is just awful, honestly I laughed at how bad it was, nothing in it was good.
My bet is DC knows it too and will try to ignore Tim's metamorphosis further down the track. Honestly on the most fundamental levels fitzmartins writing just stinks. Is she blackmailing the editors perhaps? I cant think of any other reason her writing would be anywhere near the flagship character at DC.
I don't know, the Tim story ended with the "warning" we'll see more of Tim in 2022. I mean, of course we'll see more of him in 2022 but I took it as we'll see more of this version of him, which would be horrible. And you know if they would steer away from the bi thing, the crazies who have weird fetishes with character would totally screech like idiots. That's the problem with these types of moves, once you've done it it's hard to get it undone.
Stopping crime and saving lives does not have an identity label. It does not care about your political, religious, racial, gender, sexual labels. But since the values of fighting crime/saving lives no longer a priority for DC writers, they have to find something else to focus on. DC hires horror writers have could care less about justice.
Well, in The Joker book a writer did state "Criminals are the REAL citizens of Gotham" so in their minds stopping crime isn't a good thing anymore.
I'm cautiously optimistic that Williamson over on the main is going to make the sales speak louder than the activist crap and DC will recalibrate a little. I'm not expecting miracles but I'm hoping for an improvement writing and approach wise.
The joker book still had Tynions stink on it so I wouldnt have any high expectations in quality ie content. Its line a fart in an elevator as someone is leaving and another enters it. It had to dissipate.
It wasn't Tynion with that line, it was Sam Johns in the backup, it's an LGBT writer. She probably embraces that weird "be gay, do crime" thing that's so idiotic. I swear, it's like some people want the total breakdown of the social fabric of society, I've said it before, it reminds me of the beginnings of Bolshevism in Russia.
You know their theory...breakdown values and norms so that you end up relying on government. The communists and the nazis released criminals into the streets and used the chaos to scare populations complying and relying on government. You know their thinking "it can work it just hasn't been done right yet".
From what I've read all things batman went through Tynion first then editorial. Hopefully we see less of this crap now that hes left DC.
I don't know if all of them are necessarily inclined towards the "relying on government" thing. A lot of them have anarchist tendencies, so their "solution" would rather be no government at all, which is even more dumb. But I don't even know if it's necessary political for all of them, most of them seem determined just on destroying first and foremost all social norms. I never though we'd be here as a society but I guess Einstein was right about those two infinite things.
And to prove you right Merlyn san francuscos mayor today said that a peaceful and law abiding city would "make some people uncomfortable" but...lol. in other words the big money donors business is getting hurt by flash mob looting $850 shoplifting limits squalor crime and unlivable conditions affecting their interests. You called it.
But I'm buying in continuity batman book again so that's progress...
Even the anarchists want an all powerful government enforcing their utopia. What they forget is they get thrown into gulags too when they're no longer needed and cause problems. History is a bitch for them.
Merelyn - and "The Joker's" Sam Johns is another horror writer. It simply is a different set of values, writing horror for shock value, and writing hero comics to promote justice, respect for human life, and defiance to crime. Totally different worldviews.
This is the third fake account people make here specifically to target me. How much can I live in their heads? :)))
But I do hope someone will take the time to delete these fake account. I mean, I can block them all, there's no problem with that from me but I do find it rather tedious.
@Bats20832: See, Bats, I don't think for them it's about "shock value" at all. I think they genuinely hate our society and want to completely tear it down by overthrowing all of our values and replacing them with theirs. It's not about shock value so much as it is about brainwashing people through subversive propaganda until enough idiots buy into it and try to do something about it. And at the rate the people are getting dumber and dumber, the future doesn't look good.
@Ming: We don't have enough data to see how that would work out, unlike communism/socialism where we have more than fucking enough data to realize it's a totalitarian nightmare but in theory anarchy requires no government at all. Now I think that's total bullshit but historically Makhnovia is the best anarchist example, there were attempts in Catalonia and Aragon too during the Spanish Civil War period but communists got involved too so I wouldn't count them as anarchist.
Of course, Makhnovia wasn't totally leaderless, the name says it after all but it was highly decentralized. Now like I said, I think anarchism is actually even more shittier than communism and you may be right in the fact that anarchists may want a daddy government after all. Point is, we don't know what they want because my best guess is they don't know what they actually want other than to loot, destroy property and throw Molotov cocktails. Most of them are either idiots or trashy hipsters lol
merlyn wishes something was living in his head, unfortunately it's empty. 8]
Ok, block it is but I really wish someone would delete these accounts obvioulsy made by idiots who screech because I already blocked them.
Mmmh god how much envy you generate @Merlyn this person cannot surpass you to the degree that he continues to make fake profiles. He has! you live in his head without paying rent. Well I think that in 2022 many of the things that happened in this year will be erased, everything will be converted to stories outside the canon, I feel sorry for Nightwing who will possibly remain with Taylor, on the other hand it is rumored that Superman-Clark will also return .
Tim bi, it has not been at all well received, due to its forced inclusion, possibly this will be erased, as well as everything from UL because there is no sense of following the canon. I don't even buy this and I don't even think I want to read it for free, much less translate it (by the way, RH de Lobdell is being translated into Russian due to the success of the character. Unlike Nightwing, which is sold only in English)
I have already managed to have 4 fake accounts that attack me, I don't know if it's the same guy but yeah, I do live in their heads rent-free. Nightwing will 100% remain with Taylor, so will Jon Kent, Taylor just got exclusive with DC, that nightmare won't end soon enough.
Yeah, as much as some idiots can't handle this, the truth is Lobdell did a wonderful job with Jason Todd, he is the best Jason writer after Winnick.
More ageist anti-Batman hypocrisy in "A Carol of Bats" by Meghan Fitzmartin, whose career has mostly been in supernatural and horror. She is only interested in Tim as label teenager, not in his values in fighting crime. In fact, the very concept of fighting crime itself is viewed as passe and disgusting backwards thinking. So why exactly are her characters dressing up in costumes? But DC's Gotham Books really do NOT like Batman, and so they need to have outlets to dig on him and the "terrible" concept that "Crime Does Not Pay." And people give DC Comics ***MONEY*** for Batman comics, so Meghan and so many of the other anti-Batman writers get a job, getting paid to diss the main character. In this case, by pretending to examine how "broken" he is. Yeah, right. No one is fooled, EC, I mean, DC Comics. more
It is ironic. It is almost as though DC Comics was taken over by some group of super-villains with the express purpose of undermining credibility and values in heroes fight crime. The Bizarro DC Comics writing and editing world.
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