Batman: Black & White #3

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  Khamul

  Feb 23, 2021

  A pretty great issue,every story really showed a lot of imagination.But in a terrific collection of stories 'Unquiet Knight' really really stands out.Tim Seely creates a Batman I've never seen and it was powerful.A lot of that is probably do to his collaborator as well,Kelley Jones,who was born to draw Batman,and is a masters master in black and white.More from these two please!

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  Toonstrack

  Feb 24, 2021

  Clearly the first story in this book triggered exactly the people it should trigger. If you feel victimized when you see cop killers and racists getting beat up, maybe there's some internal issues you have to work out. I didnt even read the other ones yet, this first one was so good it gets this score just off of that. Art is incredible and fluid, and the fights exhilarating and justified. Quality stuff.

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  CreatiScope

  Apr 05, 2021

  https://www.creatiscope.com/batman-black-and-white-3-review/

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  mrDovydas

  Mar 21, 2021

  While not as good as the first couple issues, I still really enjoyed those. Really loved Seeley's & Jones' story.

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  Khamul - Mar 23, 2021

  I wish they'd expand that story into more

  

  CreatiScope - Apr 5, 2021

  I actually liked this one the most. I really like all of these artists. Last issue, I only really liked the David Aja one.

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  😒

  Aug 09, 2021

  Surprisingly Seeley had the best story this time around. This issue was definitely a lot more experimental and that is okay, I really loved Nick Dragotta's crazy manga inspired art.

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  Psycamorean

  Feb 23, 2021

  The Calvary is pretty good. If you like The Next Batman, you'll probably like this, as it's just a bit more of that. A Kingdom of Thorns is okay. The art would unfortunately work much better in color. Just go look at The Dreaming. And the story was a bit rough. I am the Bat is fine. There's a neat twist at the end. The art worked very well. Unquiet Knight is not good. I don't like Tim Seeley's writing and the art definitely would've been better in color. Legacy is something. I really liked the art, but I'm not sure about that story.

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  • SenpaifenixJäger
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  Spacey Medicine

  Jun 08, 2021

  I just don't really understand the point of these comics.

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  😒 - Jun 12, 2021

  Do you understand the Marvel versions?

  

  😒 - Jun 12, 2021

  Okay, I apologize. Your reviews seem to pretty fair as of late. I just have PTSD over your era of DC lucky to have an average of 3 or 4. ;)

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  Merlyn

  Feb 23, 2021

  The first story is pretty racist, something I've come to expect from Ridley. Sure, the usual crowd will go "hOw iS iT rAcIsT?" because for some racism only goes one way. Which, of course, it doesn't. The second is just bad, the third is okay. The fourth and the fifth are pretty good, I was impressed by the art in both.

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  TheHyruleElf - Feb 23, 2021

  Beating on white supremacists is racist? I feel like ur gonna have a tough time fighting for that one chief. Also, the story mostly focuses on family anyway, so I really have no idea what you mean, sir.

  

  Mingthemerciless - Feb 23, 2021

  Ridleys schtick is pretty much back revenge fantasies. If you canr see the racist complexion of his one note writing you have my sympathy. As for batman black white I've been enjoying it more than the main books. With a few duds it's mostly enjoyable.when I saw Ridley was contributing to this issue I knew what I'd be getting and simply chose to put it in the dud of this issue category. Always enjoy Kelley Jones on batman though.

  

  SenpaifenixJäger - Feb 23, 2021

  omg, why do you think racism is owned only by people with African genes? Racism can be suffered by anyone and when you hit a target just because of their ethnicity, it is racism.

  

  TheHyruleElf - Feb 23, 2021

  Uhhh sure, I know that. Everyone does. But advocating for any kind of supremacy is wrong, and this is no exception. Taking down ppl like that shouldn't be controversial.

  

  SenpaifenixJäger - Feb 23, 2021

  Once this is cleared up I'm not sure if the first story is racist or not, but it could be interpreted as promoting revenge towards a bigoted (dumb) type of people and I think it fuels the fire of hatred and I don't believe that. It is what you need right now with the situation that is happening in the United States, a terrible situation that should never have happened. Think about this, if we translated it backwards, a white Batman beating up a group of bigoted blacks, it wouldn't be racist.

  

  Mingthemerciless - Feb 23, 2021

  That's exactly the point. Any portrayal of one race being above another is wrong. But not where Ridleys writing is concerned. He love provoking racial tensions with his revenge fantasies. Hes a lazy writer and very one note.

  

  TheHyruleElf - Feb 23, 2021

  I'm not really sure how "taking down white supremacists" is provoking racial tensions, considering people like this do exist. While they may not be extremely abundant, the events at the Capitol building (where actual confederate and white power flags were flown) should tell you otherwise. And these people aren't portrayed as "dumb" (one is even mentioned as military) just ignorant, which again, is not unbelievable given the current climate.

  

  TheHyruleElf - Feb 23, 2021

  Finally, we have been shown scenes of Batman beating on minorities in gangs and so forth, which generally garner little to no attention. (I'm thinking of certain scenes from 80s Batman comics) So I'm not entirely sure to take away from this conversation other than you likely skimmed through the story, saw a mention of race and got upset, and then proceeded to make excuses about it.

  

  TheHyruleElf - Feb 23, 2021

  By your logic it's okay when: Batman (Bruce Wayne) beats up black drug dealers like Deshawn (Batman #664) and Jefferson Skeevers (Batman #407) But it's "provoking racial tensions" when: Batman (Jace Fox) beats up white supremacist drugs dealers like the Igloo Bois in this issue. If that's what you're saying I'm sorry, but I think you're racist.

  

  SenpaifenixJäger - Feb 23, 2021

  TheHyruleElf terrible thing about the capitol, personally I do not see badly the first chapter, but there are extremely sensitive people and others being so extreme in another and I think that due to the situation that is unfortunately happening, perhaps they should be careful regarding these issues During a demonstration against racism, many people became aggressive with the motorists and caused deaths and injuries for taking things to the extreme,

  

  SenpaifenixJäger - Feb 23, 2021

  it was not like the madmen in the capitol, a little care should be taken not to fall into extremes.

  

  SenpaifenixJäger - Feb 23, 2021

  TheHyruleElf At the moment I do not think that anyone dares to put a group of blacks being beaten and it would feed hatred in a difficult moment.

  

  SenpaifenixJäger - Feb 23, 2021

  In the end it is my way of thinking of a person who sees their whole situation from the outside and I see how in both groups people shout offenses or say racism, xenophobia etc. It is not the same today as at the time those comics were written and if there was some racism at that time in many movies when the bad guys were Russians or black people. Now they are replaced by Russians or Mexicans and it is still Xenophobia and racism but now directed at another group.

  

  SenpaifenixJäger - Feb 23, 2021

  If we get so strict on sensitivities, there will always be racism and xenophobia in some way.

  

  Mingthemerciless - Feb 23, 2021

  Lol...the Capitol building? We saw blm and antifa destroy lives and livelihoods for months in the name of back lives matter and you're giving me a few hours of hyped up kooks in DC as the problem? I said Ridley is lazy and one he ran straight to beating on white supremacists by his fake black batman. All to stoke division and feed racial animus.

  

  Mingthemerciless - Feb 23, 2021

  And lo and behold you call me a racist...lol

  

  Mingthemerciless - Feb 23, 2021

  Ridley is the racist. You need to digest that fact. All he offers is hate. I've seen batman beat up Russians Asians black criminals Latin criminals and a whole lot of white ones too.

  

  Mingthemerciless - Feb 23, 2021

  His entire rogues gallery is white.

  

  Merlyn - Feb 23, 2021

  @TheHyruleElf: For me it's pretty simple: if the situation was reversed (aka portraying black people like whites are portrayed here), this would be considered controversial. But since these are white people, that's ok. You can't have it both ways, I'm sorry.

  

  Mingthemerciless - Feb 23, 2021

  Minus bane who is Latin.

  

  Mingthemerciless - Feb 23, 2021

  And killer croc is black. Batman goes where the crime is. No race baiting like Ridleys one note writing.

  

  Mingthemerciless - Feb 23, 2021

  And if you want to quibble ras al ghul is likely middle eastern. Now there was a period during the war that batman was used as propaganda. But he began as simply a crime fighter against almost exclusively white criminals. Ridley runs straight to the racial animus well as he always does.

  

  Mingthemerciless - Feb 23, 2021

  And to be clear I'm saying Ridleys writung is lazy one note and tailored to stoke racial animus. He ran straight to the black hero vs white supremacists well. A hero that by the way never earned the batman title and left batman's three sons out of contention. My problem isn't seeing white supremacists being beat up. It's the obvious agenda and race baiting of Ridleys.

  

  TheHyruleElf - Feb 23, 2021

  "you're giving me a few hours of hyped up kooks in DC as the problem?" I'm not going to get into that because I'm sure you know the difference between damage on insured building vs. attacking public officials in the nation's capitol over an election. If you can't see the difference, there's no helping quite frankly. And I'm still unclear on why you take such issue with the notion of white supremacists being villains, I really don't understand that. Or how that "stokes any racial animus."

  

  TheHyruleElf - Feb 23, 2021

  White supremacists are bad in any context and your justifications are not helping in the slightest. It almost sounds like you're trying to defend them, but please prove me wrong.

  

  TheHyruleElf - Feb 23, 2021

  And @Merlyn the point I'm making isn't a black vs. white supremacists thing, but rather Batman's approach to crime. In this story, Batman is taking them out because they kidnapped a cop and are gun traffickers. But somehow it's the fact that they're "white supremacists" that makes you angry. Again, I'm not really sure why that would be the case. I assume YOU are not a white supremacist, and I don't recall Jace Fox saying any diatribe about "all whites being racist" or some other nonsense.

  

  TheHyruleElf - Feb 23, 2021

  @Merlyn I believe I mentioned earlier that the story mostly focused on the family (Jace and Tiff) and their relation to Batman, but it seems that you were somehow most upset over them being racist. Again, they're criminals so I'm not sure why that would take precedence, but I'll let you explain yourself. Or not. If you thought the story was boring or uninteresting, that's quite all right. But this weird fixation on a minor point seems odd to be upset about.

  

  TheHyruleElf - Feb 23, 2021

  @Merlyn Again, I assume your not a white nationalist, so for the life of me I don't understand why that would rankle you so much.

  

  Mingthemerciless - Feb 23, 2021

  Were you as upset when abortion activists stormed the capital and threatened any senator that dared to confirm Cavanaugh? Spare me the piety.

  

  Merlyn - Feb 23, 2021

  @TheHyruleElf: Stop lying, please. There were not just "damages on insured buildings", there were a lot of deaths and injured people. In fact there was a lot more loss of life in the BLM riots than on the Capitol storming. On 6 January 5 people died, in the BLM riots, the counting stopped at 19 deaths, for obvious reasons. Those so-called "peaceful protests" were anything but, the real number of dead people is probably much higher.

  

  Merlyn - Feb 23, 2021

  Just to be clear, I'm not trying to defend the rioters at the Capitol, there is no excuse for those actions, whenever there is loss of life that's when it's going too far in my book. But comparing the two events like one was something horrible and the other was just a walk in the park is very disingenous on your part. So, you know, before you start throwing insults at me because I don't agree with your racial theories, maybe stop lying for a second.

  

  Mingthemerciless - Feb 23, 2021

  You're not paying attention are you? Ridley uses the straw man to gin up racial animus. Its easy to loathe white supremacists and it's easy to use them for his purposes. And what's his purpose? Good story telling? No..racial tension is what hes looking to foment.

  

  Merlyn - Feb 23, 2021

  And regarding the racism thing, again, I don't have a problem whatsoever shaming white people being racist, but why is it ALWAYS the whites being portrayed as such, but never, ever the other way around? Why is one thing super cool and acceptable, while the other is so problematic that no one dares portraying black people like that? That's racist, and you know it.

  

  Mingthemerciless - Feb 23, 2021

  Oh and there's the feeble excuse "insured buildung" regurgitated like a good little useful idiot. It doesn't matter how much damage blm and antifa inflict on property and people's lives..its insured. Dozens were killed during BLM's jacobin free for all. That's ok..insured.

  

  TheHyruleElf - Feb 23, 2021

  Ok first of all, I wasn't "throwing insults" I was just asking why you seem to fixate on such a minor point, assuming you're not a white nationalist. If you're upset by the comparison, that's fine, but it's hardly lying. And yes, ppl were killed. Police and protestors (some who were shot by civilians like the Rittenhouse boy) but again I raised the point of the capitol riots as clear cut example of current day white extremism when felix had raised another point.

  

  Mingthemerciless - Feb 23, 2021

  Were you upset when public officials were threatened in the Capitol by lefty activists during the confirmation hearings?

  

  Mingthemerciless - Feb 23, 2021

  Oh wait...they were unsured?

  

  TheHyruleElf - Feb 23, 2021

  And I'm not sure what "racial theories," you think I support, or even what that means if I'm being honest, but I know that I wouldn't be upset by a minor point of white supremacists in an 8 page Batman comic. No, it's not a walk in the part, but there is certainly a greater emphasis on the Capitol considering what might have happened if the terrorists had been successful.

  

  Mingthemerciless - Feb 23, 2021

  Rittenhouse was defending himself from armed antifa that chased him down. Do your own eyes lie to you?

  

  TheHyruleElf - Feb 23, 2021

  I'm not saying the lives lost last summer are insignificant, but it's certainly a little more frightening when the entire government is at risk over a democratic election. That's really all I have to say, as well as my points about the actual comic we've been discussing. Also, we're about 30 comments deep and I'm not a "keyboard warrior," so I'll not be debating this well into the morning if you understand my meaning.

  

  Merlyn - Feb 23, 2021

  And I've given you examples of black extremism but you don't seem to care about it very much, if anything you're trying to suggest the deaths came from right-wing extremists. Your bias is showing.

  

  TheHyruleElf - Feb 23, 2021

  One more point: the "peaceful protests" that you mock were often instigated by police and I should know. I watched a 7-hour Livestream of my local Boston news channel and while the marches were peaceful for nearly 3/4 of that time it was when the police showed up that things really escalated through the use of tear gas and other tools. Obviously, that doesn't excuse rioters, nor the actions of murder, but when a body escalates things it always gets worse. Always. That's my take.

  

  Mingthemerciless - Feb 23, 2021

  John Sullivan antifa and blm operative raided the capitol on Jan 6 and even filmed Ashli Babbitt mortally wounded. Hes on video gleefully enjoying his presence in the capitol and the damage being done. Good luck portraying him as a white nationalist.

  

  Merlyn - Feb 23, 2021

  Well your take is pretty bad given that the mob attacked the police, the same mob who called for the abolition of police and prisons.

  

  TheHyruleElf - Feb 23, 2021

  "Rittenhouse was defending himself from armed antifa that chased him down. Do your own eyes lie to you?" And this justifies murder? I presume you felt the same outrage over the many hate crimes committed towards Asians in the past year.

  

  Mingthemerciless - Feb 23, 2021

  The government was never at risk. Stop insulting everyone's intelligence.

  

  TheHyruleElf - Feb 23, 2021

  "And I've given you examples of black extremism but you don't seem to care about it very much, if anything you're trying to suggest the deaths came from right-wing extremists." - "But advocating for any kind of supremacy is wrong, and this is no exception." My own words. And yes, some of the deaths did come from extremists as I mentioned. As well as Antifa antagonizers. I don't advocate for any violence, but there shouldn't be a case for "which supremacy is better."

  

  TheHyruleElf - Feb 23, 2021

  Also, a lot of Antifa antagonizers (which you mention as causing trouble) are white, yet you refer to it as "black extremism" which I find to be very questionable. And I don't recall them arguing for "racial purity" or any such nonsense. That doesn't make it better, but they're hardly a 1:1 comparison. Once more, if you cannot see some distinction I'm afraid I don't know what else to say.

  

  Mingthemerciless - Feb 23, 2021

  Yeah..its ok it's all insured (sorry about the dozens killed and wounded)...but the government and free elections were in danger and ours white nationalism fault..lol

  

  TheHyruleElf - Feb 23, 2021

  "The government was never at risk. Stop insulting everyone's intelligence." Well that says quite a lot. It's not as though they had to evacuate all the members congress as they were performing their duties. It's not as they some of them were carrying weaponry and bombs. But I suppose, I'm embarrassing myself for worrying about a little thing like safety.

  

  TheHyruleElf - Feb 23, 2021

  Well I guess I am, as I'm continuing this conversation with you Ming.

  

  Merlyn - Feb 23, 2021

  Dude, if you're going to pin those deaths on "Antifa antagonizers", it's getting really hard for me to take you seriously. Seriously. And yes, you're right, there shouldn't be a case for "which supremacy is better", that was my whole point. But why is it everyone's cool with the depiction of white people like this, yet the opposite is racist? Why is it okay to portrait one race in bad taste, but at another it's "problematic"? That's my whole complaint.

  

  Merlyn - Feb 23, 2021

  I think I've read tens of comics recently of white people being portrayed this way, but always JUST white people. You can't tell me with a serious face that it's just coincidence and not pure racism.

  

  Mingthemerciless - Feb 23, 2021

  Terrorists were successful..lol listen to yourself. Months and months if blm and antifa terrorism on entire cities and you brush it off with..its ok its insured but the government was in mortal peril. By who? A guy in a medicine man headdress and facepaint?

  

  TheHyruleElf - Feb 23, 2021

  "Dude, if you're going to pin those deaths on "Antifa antagonizers", it's getting really hard for me to take you seriously." Oh, right, I guess I was supposed to those evil nasty radical black monkeys who ruined the cities and killed people, right? And my complaint from the start was why would you be upset over a portrayal of supremacists in a bad light. Let me ask you this: If they were Japanese extremists, would you be just as upset as you are right now?

  

  TheHyruleElf - Feb 23, 2021

  The fact that you've defended this for this long leads me to believe otherwise, but please prove me wrong.

  

  Mingthemerciless - Feb 23, 2021

  Instead of wanting to call me a racist so bad why don't you read what's in front of you? I already said no one cares that white supremacists got beat up in the story. Its Ridleys cleae and transparent agenda that is vulgar and offensive.

  

  Mingthemerciless - Feb 23, 2021

  Don't pretend to be clever with me champ. My family experienced first hand the butchery of the nazis and the communists.

  

  TheHyruleElf - Feb 23, 2021

  And I continued to ask what agenda is a part of fighting against supremacists, and how it could possibly be "vulgar and offensive." Like, supremacy is bad in any form so I don't understand how it's an agenda. Is it just because they're white and Batman is black? Really? That's a weak justification and I hope you understand that.

  

  TheHyruleElf - Feb 23, 2021

  But I get the feeling you've made up your mind already, and the fact that you consider Rittenhouse so defensive hero shows I want little to do with that ideology.

  

  Mingthemerciless - Feb 23, 2021

  Billions of dollars in damage. Lives destroyed. Dozens killed. Hundreds injured in blm and antifa riots that took place over months but the guy in the horned headdress and face paint nearly brought down the government..lol.

  

  TheHyruleElf - Feb 23, 2021

  So this will be my last little comment, unless you have something else witty to say Ming.

  

  Mingthemerciless - Feb 23, 2021

  You haven't answered whether you were upset when lefties stormed the capital and threatened senators if they confirmed kacanaugh

  

  Mingthemerciless - Feb 23, 2021

  I ll spell it out for you. Beating up skinheads is not Ridleys agenda. Gunning up racial animus is. He merely used the boogie man dupes like you react to.

  

  TheHyruleElf - Feb 23, 2021

  Of course I was, who wouldn't be. As I've said a million times, any extremism is bad, left or right. But that doesn't somehow justify the events of Jan. 6 does it? Again, if you need to justify the actions of one group by saying, "well, the other group does it too!" then not only are you missing the point, but it's frankly disturbing.

  

  TheHyruleElf - Feb 23, 2021

  So if you can't understand that, let's not continue this charade any further.

  

  Merlyn - Feb 23, 2021

  I think I've made my point clear 4 times now and you completely choose to ignore my point of view while trying to imply that I'm racist (I didn't use the word "monkey" at any point, but you've done it). Given that you don't seem to give a crap about any of my comments and just cherry-pick parts of them in order to try to portray me as you want me to be, I don't see why I should continue this conversation.

  

  Mingthemerciless - Feb 23, 2021

  No justification for either attack on the capital but you seem to call only one group terrorists for doing exactly what another had already done with almost no consequences.

  

  Mingthemerciless - Feb 23, 2021

  Again spare me your piety..you're not very convincing.

  

  Mingthemerciless - Feb 23, 2021

  No one justifies the attack on jan 6 stop putting words in my mouth. Its was dangerous and unlawful.

  

  Mingthemerciless - Feb 23, 2021

  What's more troubling is your defense of the terrorism on entire cities by blm and antifa. You actually repeated the "its insured"absurdity mouthed by blm mouthpieces. That speaks volumes about how easily manipulated the dim witted can be.

  

  Mingthemerciless - Feb 23, 2021

  Anyway... batman black and white is currently the best of DCs batman output right even with duds like this one by Ridley.

  

  Mingthemerciless - Feb 23, 2021

  Merlyn..apologies for belaboring this board but he calls everyone a racist almost by reflex.

  

  Mingthemerciless - Feb 23, 2021

  There's a quote that applies to what Ridley does..the devil doesn't appear to you in horns and a cape but rather as everything you wish for. There's a better version of that but I think it's clear.

  

  Toonstrack - Feb 24, 2021

  There was nothing racist about beating up racists who killed a cop. Nothing

  

  Mingthemerciless - Feb 24, 2021

  There is something racist when your black batman is doing the beating up of said racists. Ridley is a race baiter and he used the easiest go to to disguise his racial agenda...white supremacists. Do you think Ridley would have his black batman beat up some antifa or blm goons burning down someone's home or destroying their livelihood? I've seen Bruce Wayne come to the aid of people like that.

  

  Mingthemerciless - Feb 24, 2021

  Like I said the devil doesn't appear in horns and a cape...he appears as everything that appeals to you.

  

  Mingthemerciless - Feb 24, 2021

  Look at Ridleys body of work and tell me he doesn't have a racial agenda. Good luck.

  

  Toonstrack - Feb 24, 2021

  You're looking for something to get upset about. All I see is Batman fighting criminals. Them being racists doesn't change that. And it isnt racist either. He isnt beating them because they are white, hes beating them up because they are criminals.

  

  Toonstrack - Feb 24, 2021

  That isnt a racial agenda, that's Batmans doing exactly what he's supposed to do.

  

  Mingthemerciless - Feb 24, 2021

  Of course hes beating them because they're white. It's a revenge fantasy for Ridley who is himself a racially charged writer.

  

  Mingthemerciless - Feb 24, 2021

  When Ridleys batman takes on the crips (which is also what batman is supposed to do) let me know.

  

  Mingthemerciless - Feb 24, 2021

  You're being duped and manipulated by Ridley. He didn't have to put his batman in peril by white supremacists. They could have been drug cartel or gang members in which killing a cop is much more frequent and realistic. He went straight to the racist well instead.

  

  Toonstrack - Feb 24, 2021

  No he isnt beating them because they are white lol. Did you even read this? Its clearly explained they have kidnapped/killed a cop and thats why he's there. You talk about seeing the "devil" in front of you but you are choosing to deny the reality the book presents and formulate your own. I've read other works by John ridley and one of those was other history #1. In which a black man develops a prejudice against another black man.

  

  Toonstrack - Feb 24, 2021

  Clearly he is capable of more nuance than he is allowed. And a writer depicting batman beating on crips WOULDNT be racist either. You sound like the folks who said Hawkeye was racist in Endgame, I've defended that scene too.

  

  Mingthemerciless - Feb 24, 2021

  I'm not so sensitive to be offended by Hawkeye kicking yakuza ass in Japan. But Ridley has a racial bent to his writing and its not simply plot device and storytelling. I believe hes a race baiter.

  

  Mingthemerciless - Feb 24, 2021

  Ridley didn't have to go to racist well but he did and its not coincidence.

  

  Mingthemerciless - Feb 24, 2021

  This piece is a revenge fantasy by Ridley. I believe it's obvious given context with his other work. Its time for guys like Ridley to be called to the mat. On a purely aesthetic note his writing bores me. Hes one note and lazy. Similar to Tom King.

  

  Toonstrack - Feb 24, 2021

  Writing black characters isn't a racial bend though. And depicting real life racism isn't a racial bend either. There's no revenge to he had for this to be something like that.

  

  Toonstrack - Feb 24, 2021

  Revenge for what? He's fighting criminals. There is ZERO wrong with that. Just because they are criminals similar to ones we'd encounter on occasion in modern times doesn't change that.. . I dont see the disconnect, it seems to he a personal issue with Ridley going back to something specific. But there's no need to fit it in here.

  

  Toonstrack - Feb 24, 2021

  If he wants to write racism being defeated, let him! Its exactly the type of relevant story that resonates and there's nothing wrong with that. I dont see an issue.

  

  Merlyn - Feb 24, 2021

  @Ming: Let it go, it's not like you're going to change his mind, he clearly doesn't care to see beyond the usual stereotypes. And I really don't want this to go to 100 comments. :))

  

  Toonstrack - Feb 24, 2021

  @Merlyn, its not a stereotype. That implies most white people are depicted like this. They are not. But if you wish to end the discussion, very well.

  

  Merlyn - Feb 24, 2021

  If you would've even read the comments I've made above you would know what my complaint was. But you didn't so yeah, there's no need for further discussion.

  

  Bats44121 - Mar 3, 2021

  @Merlyn, I believe we see John Ridley writing about are criminals that he imagines most. Bob Kahan and Milton Finger's core (not exclusive) vision of "the criminal" were mobsters of their day. because that was threat in their city. They were, of course, a stereotype too. But with more pages of writing, antagonist (even mobster) had more character development. Not getting those pages from Ridley. Thus less character development. Lack of writing/plot limits what we see beyond snippet of world view

  

  Bats44121 - Mar 3, 2021

  @Merlyn, I have read John Ridley's Batman work only. To me, the question is can he really do anatagonist character development, as I also question can he really write a solid story with beginning, middle, end - beyond the serial style writing or reimagining others' "history"?

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  Bats44121

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  Unquiet Knight Story with Zatanna was fine: Rating 7. It benefitted from the short format. Few "stories" actually do; it only did because we already knew so much of the characters and story. The others were really filler. Rating: 4 7 page mini-story from John Ridley on "New Batman." Rating: 4.5. Readers mostly didn't buy this to read the Zatanna mini-story. I only got this story to see how John Ridley developed the "New Batman" character with Tim Fox, since there is so little actual story out there. I understand maybe these are not all going to be massive tomes of stories. But 7 pages? Really? I keep hoping to see something from Ridley. And regularly disappointed. Surely he knows what he is writing is more important that "Ancient Knigh t Batman," etc. Please. That is NOT why we are buying this comic; give us a break. Batarangs now break metal chains? That's cool. How do they do that without injuring the person bound in chains? And his sister suddenly is trained and skilled to take down what 7-10 criminals at once? We keep getting fantasy, when an actual story with some possible credibility could build the character. I don't have any problem with the criminals, certainly they are parodies, but so. They are at least part of some level of storyline. Beyond the initial panel, we really focus on just one of the criminals, the rest are "background noise." My concern here: I am beginning to wonder if John Ridley actually is ABLE TO WRITE meaningful comic book stories for a plot, with any coherency or credibility. I don't mean reimagine another character's history, but write a new story, with beginning, middle, end - which actually has a storyline and not dependent only on soap opera serial mini-stories. (Next week, Jace opens the front door... next week, Jace ties his shoes... etc.) more

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  JHugh

  Feb 24, 2021

  What is this? Smh

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  Comics Code Authorities - Mar 19, 2021

  5 fine examples of what happens when you try to write a comic story while high? At least that's the best explanation I can come up with.

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  Comics Code Authorities

  Mar 19, 2021

  The theme of this issue was mainly the future. It seemed they all took place in a near future scenario. A concept I'm not a fan of in any comic series. The only one not took place in the past. But all 5 had one important thing in common: They were all absolutely terrible. So far this has been one of the better Anthology Batman series in a long time, but this issue is a fine example of everything that makes them usually bad. After this series and Superman:Red & Blue are over I am finished with the wastes of money known as anthologies. It may only be March, but So far this issue wins a No-Prize for "Biggest comic letdown issue of 2021."

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  Khamul - Mar 19, 2021

  Already there's a rumor one of these stories will be a series it was so successful !

  

  Comics Code Authorities - Mar 20, 2021

  I doubt I'll be reading it. DC's very hung up on this Future State stuff, but I passed on the whole thing. I've never been a fan of futuristic comic scenarios.

  

  Khamul - Mar 21, 2021

  Agree in general on that, and the one story I hope they will expand upon was Batman as a ghost but I doubt that's the one

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  SenpaifenixJäger

  Feb 23, 2021

  mmh a lot of crazy concepts, others not so many, I don't know what they intended here but I wouldn't spend my money on this. But tastes are diverse, this is not for me, neither the art nor the various stories. I like well-built characters, if they are going to do metaphors or surreal things that is something interesting not only what they imagined during the time they were flying high.

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  Khamul - Feb 23, 2021

  Why do you even read comics? If tastes are diverse then allow for it.What DC intended was to entertain with something bold fresh and different, and they did. Who they disappoint are readers who aren't. I give you a 1.0 too

  

  SenpaifenixJäger - Feb 23, 2021

  Exactly, I did not like it, however who does it is good because they make the purchase and avoid the disappearance of DCcomics, however for my taste I feel that the quality of DC has been declining for a year in a terrible way.

  

  SenpaifenixJäger - Feb 23, 2021

  In the end, the purchase is what counts, not what we think, it is a business so the numbers will really speak for the fans, you like to buy it, you don't like to put it aside. It is that simple to show what art, character or number we support.

  

  SenpaifenixJäger - Feb 23, 2021

  And I think I'm not trying to stop anyone from buying it, I'm not getting into other people's reviews like a bitter blaze just because they like me, that's allowing, respecting and having tolerance for diversity. And I give a -100 to the intolerant who do not support the diversity of opinion due to their lack of maturity. Diversity is good.

  

  Khamul - Feb 23, 2021

  I'm just giving you some 'diversity of opinion' Seems you didn't like that with the novel you wrote in response. Don't care about the rest of DCs line or whatever, so just talk about the book. It was great and you can't see it. Cool.

  

  SenpaifenixJäger - Feb 23, 2021

  Which is great and I fully support your opinion of diversity, my native language is not English, maybe something can be misinterpreted. But of course I support diversity and intolerant people who want to control a positive or negative vote make me sick. If you like that is good and if you don't like it too.

  

  SenpaifenixJäger - Feb 24, 2021

  J'me demande la même chose, ils sont traumatisés si quelqu'un dit que je n'aime pas ça, ils ont besoin comme si tu devais changer d'avis et face à l'agression, personne n'écoute ne peut avoir des bases solides ou pas, ils faire et infraction, couper la communication que pourrait-il y avoir C'est comme je demande explication par un 10

  

  SenpaifenixJäger - Feb 24, 2021

  Consultez vos messages privés, pour convenir des traductions je vous laisse toutes mes données.

  

  Bats44121 - Mar 3, 2021

  Je crois aussi que nos attentes ont augmenté depuis la création de Batman en 1939. Je crois que Batman a été une réponse émotionnelle au fléau du crime, qui a toujours semblé être hors de portée de la loi, et des victimes innocentes. C'est ce noyau qui a été le plus perdu.

  

  Bats44121 - Mar 3, 2021

  Le Batman a été une réaction pour inspirer ceux qui se sentent persécutés par les temps sans loi, et le manque de protection contre la société partagée. C'est le cœur de l'histoire, y compris les super-vilains. C'étaient des méchants qui attaquaient les vulnérables, pas seulement une guerre privée avec des héros. Pas l'invasion extraterrestre de l'espace, pas Darkseid, pas de réalités multiples.

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  RKS

  Mar 17, 2021

  The book is the equivalent of microwaving dog S#+t. Sure, you could do that but it isn't recommended or a particularly pleasant to experience. Save your money kids.

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  Khamul - Mar 17, 2021

  You write reviews like a master dog S$@t chef.

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