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Alright let's get to the positives, this intro is actually kinda good. There is a decent narrative flow, Tim using his analytical mind that's communicated in a visually interesting way. The art looks good throughout, and the final scene is really haunting and has great use of imagery.

That out of the way, this book is still frustratingly infuriating. After the intro with Batwoman, she acts OOC, granted most of my Kate content comes from Tynion Tec, but here Kate feels much angrier than normal and acts incredibly irrational. Also the way that she escapes the grip from the Cult leader felt rushed and convenient equally convenient was how he escaped. Then we go to Bernard, and Tim sees him shirtless which his thoughts are like "Abs, abs, abs, arms."

Now I now I like to play up my thirst for certain characters for you guys, I mostly do it for humor, so I know this may be rich coming from me. But Tim has more control than that. Granted that could just be my disdain for Bernard, Tim has fallen for feminine wiles on a few occasions. However, Bernard is shredded?!?! What the hell?! I hate saying this, but THIS IS FANFICTION LEVEL writing. A few issues back Bernard was more "twinkish" and looked like he could barely lift a barbell, now he's jacked?! And that begs the question, if he was training himself to fight hand get in shape, WHY DIDNT HE TRY TO ESCAPE WHEN HE WAS CAPTURED INSTEAD OF WAITING FOR TIM TO COME AND RESCUE HIM?!?!

All of Bernard's dialogue feels forced and unearned. I don't feel the emotional connection they are trying to convey. Tim has helped his love interests through trauma and difficult life events before both as Robin, Tim, & Red Robin too. This aspect of his character is something that I will admit Fitzmartin does understand well, but the way it's written here feels like gaslighting us into liking Bernard. I've seen Tim connect with people who went through trauma already from Ariana telling him about nearly being sexually assaulted, to Tam dealing with being held captive by the League of Assassins and nearly killed several times, to Tim helping Stephanie through a pregnancy, her father's death, and telling him about how she was nearly molested, to a complete stranger who was just having a very bad day and wanted the pain to end. I felt more of an emotional connection with Tim and that stranger than anything with Bernard whom he allegedly loves with all his heart. I get what they are trying to do, it's part of why I love Tim as a character, it's just not done well, because it's literally just Bernard venting and Tim think "Poor Bernard", telling us what to feel instead of showing us.

Then Kate interrupts and tries to interrogate Bernard which leads her and Tim to fight. And the writing improves because Tim has his doubts that things in his life really improved after dating Bernard, and Kate was spitting facts that Bernard is a "dime a dozen."

After that scene Tim thinks about visiting Bernard as Tim......what happens next was probably most irritating thing I have read of this series so far. Tim lands on top of his boat IN BROAD DAYLIGHT, one of his neighbors spot him, Tim changes out of his uniform, and for the third time in a row in this series HAS THE CURTAINS WIDE OPEN, then his neighbor (who we only met this issue, yet he and Tim are so close) spots Tim's Robin suit SITTING ON THE TABLE, and assumes that Tim is cheating on Bernard with Robin.

Jesus fucking Christ, WHY ARE YOU MAKING TIM SUCH AN UTTER FUCKING MORON?!?! He's more worried about feeling sad for Bernard. I've was more protective of my internet history as a teenager than Tim is with his identity in this book! Tim is supposed to be one of the smartest members of the Batfamily. He once faked an assassination attempt on himself, and pretended to be crippled for a year so that one of his foes wouldn't think he was Red Robin. Tim also had a pocket in his clothes that had his costume inside the pocket so he wouldn't be caught wearing his costume. Now yes, Tim has had a few close shaves, Tim overslept one time early in his career but was lucky enough to put on his robe before his maid noticed him costume, there was another time when his roommate at boarding school got super drunk and found his costume while Tim was severely sleep deprived so Tim lucked out there, and the only time he was caught was when his father ransacked his room when caught Tim in a lie and it led to Jack confronting Bruce and led to Tim having to give up the role of Robin to keep his father's mouth shut. Needless to say it was a BIG DEAL. Here, this guy spots Tim getting changed and practically catches Tim in his costume, but then thinks that Tim is being unfaithful. I overreacted at first thinking that they leaned into the "cheating bisexual" stereotype, which I don't think they did, but it's still fucking stupid.

Okay so what happens next? Does Tim follow the tracker on the Cult Leader that he placed onto him? Does he go to check on Bernard as Tim like he said the scene before and came to his boat in order to change into civilian clothes? NOPE, he goes to Batwoman's house as Robin in broad daylight. So much for the decent narrative flow.

Look if you like this, more power to you. But this is just infuriating to me. This series is more concerned at giving Tim & Bernard cute moments, than actually making Tim comes across as competent and smart. You can do both! I am so glad there is only one issue left of this and I hope writers of the future completely ignore it.more

Okay, Nikola Cizmesija should have been the artist from the get go. This art style is much more fitting to Tim's character and better communicates the "puzzle" element of the paneling. I finally understand what Riley Rossmo was trying to do in the first arc. While Nikola is no Belen Ortega, it does feel very reminiscent of the Urban Legends tales where her artwork shined. And I will give credit t o Fitzmartin, there is actually a plot here, and I am genuinely curious to see how this will end. I was thinking maybe I finally have most good things to say.....but sadly I started thinking some more and noticed all the flaws.

So we start on the boat where Darcy & Bernard are wondering why the hell Tim lives on a boat (I'll get to that), Tim thinks to himself that it's not the type of life for a person who makes rational decisions and how it's the hardest place he's ever lived. Then Bernard and Darcy do the "it's a bird, it's a plane.." bit when Batwoman crashes onto the boat. Darcy decides the best way for Bernard to leave is to remind him of a soufflé he needs to make. Tim notices blood on Kate's glove and she has partial amnesia.

....where the hell do I start? Firstly, Tim is easily the most rational of ALL the Robins. Him making irrational decisions is the last thing he would do, but then again we've established Fitzmartin doesn't understand Tim (see my issue 6 review). Second, Tim has not once ever shown any interest in boats, he's been on boats a few times but nothing to indicate he would want to live on one. I always felt that was such an odd setting choice, that is until I discovered on an interview where Fitzmartin mentioned how she lived on a boat once. Then it made more sense why she chose it, but it still does not fit Tim's character. However I had an epiphany, the boat house should have been Bernard's home. Boat life is framed as a life for the oddballs, which Bernard was originally framed as being a conspiracy nut and all. It would make sense why he would want to live on a crappy boat given his family situation and you could incorporate his love of cooking by having him work at a local restaurant. It's like no thought was put into any of this. A boat being the hardest place Tim lived? Yes Tim comes from an Uber wealthy family even before Bruce adopted him, but he once lived on his own in BLÃœDHAVEN of all places, not to mention trotting around the globe dealing with the League of Assassins, and the time he had to leave Gotham behind to live in Keystone City during No Man's Land while his friends and then pregnant girlfriend stayed behind. Tim is more than capable of handling a boat.

Now as for Batwoman's entrance, why would you use a Superman reference for Batwoman? And it was so poorly executed. Like when Bernard & Darcy notice something in the sky, neither one of them are looking up in the sky. Bernard is the one to notice something instead of Tim, unintentionally making Tim look incompetent. Then Darcy pulls Bernard away by reminding him of a soufflé to make. I feel like a normal person would have called the paramedics. No wonder Bernard figured out Tim's identity. He's making zero effort to maintain it. Oh and having Robin & Sparrow in costume on the boat, with Kate in costume but no mask WHILE THE CURTAIN IS WIDE OPEN!!!!! PUT SOME GODDAMN EFFORT INTO KEEPING THEIR IDENTITIES A SECRET!!!! They all look like morons!

Then we establish the old cliche amnesia plotline, Kate saying how she doesn't the pasts few months so Tim reveals all the things that happened. And those things that happened SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED IN THIS BOOK!!! This was a problem back in Urban Legends, all the important character moments and moments to establish this setting all happen off-panel. Tim's struggles with his sexuality, coming out to his family, moving to the marina. Those are NECESSARY steps to take, but instead this books skips past all of it. If that wasn't bad enough. In one panel we show that Kate took Tim & Bernard out to celebrate his coming out along with Batgirl. It's not established which one, but we see the Batgirl and it is either Barbara or Stephanie. If it is Barbara it is the fault of the art and coloring that makes it difficult to tell, if it's Stephanie then it's a huge writing problem. I am inclined to believe it is Stephanie, considering her portrayal in the Pride special, establishing how totally okay she is with being dumped and having her ex date a guy. It's out of character and incredibly unrealistic. DC you are allowed to show Steph not being okay being dumped, if it's better that you do!

Short personal anecdote, when I was going through my questioning phase I came across stories of guys coming out, one was of one guy coming out as bi to this girl he was getting serious. He felt that he was comfortable finally telling her, but not long after she called it off. She later revealed to him that the last guy she was with realized he was gay and dumped her. She still wasn't over it and didn't want to put herself through something similar again, despite the fact that the main was bi and not gay. By having Steph be okay with this, it's sets unrealistic expectations to people going through this, and it also removes so many potential character drama that could be used for plotlines.As Sophia Petrillo once said: "You're heart is in the right place, but I don't know where the hell your brain is."

Back to the issue at hand, I do think there may have been a communication error between Meghan & Nikola, because when we get to the Chaos Monster fight, the paneling feels off. Like I can't tell which panel I'm supposed to read first at several instances. There is one moment where the team is rushing on their motorcycles, stop to get off to talk to Detective Williams, then the next panel they are on their bikes again. It felt very jarring. Just like when Darcy got stabbed. It just came out of nowhere and quite frankly I don't really care about her. We never established how she knows Tim personally, she was retconned to be part of "We Are Robin" which Tim did not really interact with a lot. We don't know why Darcy is allowed to know Tim's identity, the comic constantly forgets she supposed to be deaf, and lastly she's a cheap stand in for Stephanie Brown, blonde hair, purple hoodie and all. She's completely pointless, why not just have it that Detective Williams gets shot instead? But to be fair I think it's just a bait and switch and Darcy will be fine

*Sigh* There is improvement here, but it's still not enough to save this whole set up, because there was no set up. I'm not angry with this book anymore, just profoundly disappointed that DC gave a book to someone who did not have the proper experience to handle this task, despite her best intentions.

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So, yes, the art is better, and the plot proved a little more linear, with fewer distractions, but the writing still leaves a whole hell of a lot to be desired. Fitzmartin continues to struggle with understanding who Tim is, with showing genuine character interactions, and the continued failures here render me completely underwhelmed with this new arc. I still don't feel much for the characters, e ven with all the angst we got here and that cliffhanger we ended on. Honestly, it's a tired plot with the whole amnesiac "killer" sporting blood they can't explain on their body. The only remotely interesting thing about it was her falling from the sky (and somehow not breaking or fracturing a single thing or receiving a concussion or any other sort of bodily injury - how far did she fall from that only her shadow was noticed and nothing else?). I know this thing is limping toward its end, but honestly, DC should have called this at issue #6 and saved everyone the further damage and pain. more

Honestly, the people who rag so hard on this book either haven't read many comics, or just hate gay people. Just saying it like it is, as they're too cowardly to do themselves.

This issue proves that ANYBODY can become a comic book writer so long as they meet certain "criteria." It's an absolute mess of a "story" with truly incomprehensible plot points. I'm starting to think Fitzmartin is actually trolling everyone. It has to be a joke, right?

Why read it then? Because like Morpheus told Neo: "You have to see it for yourself!"

1. I mean the line abo ut Bernard majoring in physics & biology to be a CHEF. Has to be a joke.

2. Tim thinking Bernard doesn't know he's Robin when he has changed in front of him in the last arc.

3. The "pee" line from Bernard and then his father demanding he apologize to his mother for it. For saying "pee"? Seriously?

4. Both Tim & Bernard leaving Bernard's parents in the burning restaurant to share "a moment" outside.

5. Bernard's "you're my gay awakening" line. It has to be a joke. Who talks like that?

I really think Meghan Fitzmartin is trolling all sides with this series. And probably laughing all the way to the bank. Well, maybe not that last bit. Bizarro-world 2023.more

Bad writing makes a book bad. People giving this a ten do you even read comics?

You can put glitter on a turd all you want, it's still a turd.

I still hold to the idea that Fitzmartin never had any intention of honoring the concept and legacy of Tim Drake but instead seems to have taken this as her cue to write whatever fantasy ideas she has of him. This isn't about "trying to live up to the images of other people." When given a character like this, it's about making them the best version of who you can while still honoring the roots se t down. You may not follow every single branch that stemmed from their initial creation, but there still remains that steady trunk of who they are as a character, and she seems intent on cutting that down as well.

The most glaring problem with this issue, as many others have already pointed out, is the idea that Tim wanted to be Batman. That he felt himself being set up for taking over the mantle, that his role as Robin was to one day step into Batman's role. He has stated on so many occasions that this is not something he has ever wanted, even if at times, he has donned the cowl. But Tim's whole point, one could argue, was to be the Robin who wanted to be Robin. It wasn't about being a cool sidekick and then taking on the name of Batman when it was time. Tim saw who Batman was without a Robin, what the loss of Jason was doing to Bruce, and he understood the real role of Robin. He approached Bruce with that very notion. It was not Bruce being unable to be Batman without a Robin, but what Batman was becoming without one. Bruce was still more than capable of acting as Batman, but the legacy of Batman, what he represented was in jeopardy, and Tim understood this. At least, this has been my understanding of their dynamic. And this is also why Tim has held a certain fear of becoming Batman. Because he knows himself and he understands what being Batman might do to him, who he might become, and that is not something he wants for himself. He's always had a level of calculated "fearlessness" when pushed, and it's partly why the role of Batman has registered as something he does not want for himself.

Which makes this whole notion of Tim not understanding himself in this series something of a joke. Yes, he has insecurities, but he also has some very clear ideas of himself and, most importantly, things he does not want, including the role of Batman and why. This tells us Tim has had some sense of himself, that he hasn't been completely lost. So, I find this idea that Tim has no clue who he is and that he's only finding himself with the marina and Bernard really reductive. Sure, he might not have it all together and still find himself plagued by uncertainty, but to act like he has had no sense of who he is as a person is rather insulting. The real issue with him may actually be in coming to terms with some of this, and a big part of that has been (despite kind of being answered already in a previous series) what becomes of him after Robin. Not knowing yourself and coming to terms with what you want and how that fits into the world can be two very separate things. But that probably requires a level of subtlety and understanding Fitzmartin seems incapable of managing.

That has probably been the biggest plague of this series. Fitzmartin's ideas remain all over the place. Take Moriarty. First, he wants Tim to be his ideal nemesis, then he talks about Tim joining him, which implies that rather than Tim taking him on as his main villain, they're working together to create this farce of an idea of them being better than Batman and Joker. Work with me or die. The level of villainy marriage proposals here was absolutely absurd in its execution. Again, nothing was really added to this story and this potential relationship between villain and hero. Rather, Fitzmartin continues to rely on tropes that she doesn't bother to dress up at all, and so they continue to fall flat in their execution. She hasn't given us any background to build upon as to why Moriarty is so set on having his Joker moment. What's his motivation here? Is it simply to be the next Joker? He's clearly not doing a great job of that. Is he supposed to be the next A-tier villain of the Batman world? Because he reads like a D-list one at best. Is the idea then that we haven't seen him at his worst, given the notion Tim threw out there about how he didn't do anything more than play with alchemic creations?

Am I excited to see him again? No.

Moriarty suffers from the same thing the marina itself suffers, that Bernard suffers, that Darcy suffers. Absolutely no build-up, no backstory, nothing at all to make a reader understand why we should care about any of this. He, along with all the others, made convenient plot devices for a plot that wasn't fully fleshed out. The whole final battle is just a repeat of the one Tim had with the fake Robins. There was nothing new there. Into the marina water you go, Moriarty. I still don't know how he got tangled in all that rope. He clearly falls on top of and slightly in front of it, untangled, in one panel, and then Tim kicks the anchor off, and suddenly the rope is twisted all around him. Not how kicking an anchor would go aside from the one hand shown pushed into a loop based upon his previous positioning. Maybe I missed something there, but I've looked at those panels multiple times and none of it makes sense. I suspect it's the writing not making clear what was going on. It looks like there was a missing scene here or a failure to understand how that mechanic might work and what would be needed to execute it properly. Again, it seems more of a moment where Fitzmartin probably thought it would be cool and didn't care about the reality of writing it.

I was also bothered by the idea that Moriarty put out there that the role of Robin has been keeping Tim down. It again reminds me of a lot of the other backhanded comments made throughout this series as far as Tim's past goes and this idea of having to put down his previous life in order to prop up his new one. Tim has loved being Robin. I do agree about him finding his next role like Dick and Jason have done, but to imply that Robin is somehow detrimental to him felt like a cheap shot, especially given the history of why he chose to take on that role. He's accomplished a lot as Robin, which led to other things for him, all of which it seems Fitzmartin is ignoring here. Maybe a smaller complaint in this issue, and only one I have, but that moment grated on me a bit.

She also contradicts her own idea of Tim in this issue, where she tells us on one page he's felt like nothing has been in control in his life, and then follows it a little later by saying he wants to be less structured and less careful about things. He talks about the deaths he couldn't prevent, which is juxtaposed by the one he could with Bernard at the last second. Again, this idea of using his past to support the "idealness" of his current life. It fell flat. The way everything here is written to show that what he has now is the best for him while ignoring all the good he's had in his life with the Batfam just registers as a really sad and hollow attempt to make us care about this current situation when in reality the absolute failure of the writing and story itself to convey that is what's truly at fault. But instead of addressing those issues, we're constantly being told over and over that this life is Tim's best life without any of the story actually supporting it. But part of who Tim is as a character is his ability to calculate and weigh the situation and the outcomes. It's what makes him a great detective (which again he clearly has not been in this story so far when you have a villain basically hand-feeding him the answers to the problems - which also makes this idea of Tim being "unable" to say no to the puzzle really hilarious). This reminded me once more of how Fitzmartin seems to be telling us her intent to change his character to who she thinks he should be rather than working with who he is and all that makes him great.

Bernard also remains incredibly flat as a character despite a little more page time here. The way Tim used "my Bernard" on that first page felt really weird and strangely possessive to me when we still have no idea why he cares so much about this guy. He's never acted like this before with him, and now suddenly, here we are with this "my" thing and then he's still not even sure they're actually boyfriends until they declare it in the last scene. It felt forced and out of place. And by the time I got to that last scene, instead of finding it cute, I found myself rolling my eyes at it all. I still don't understand how Bernard got chosen as the main love interest here given his actual history in Tim's life, but Fitzmartin has given me nothing to want to overlook that part and embrace the Bernard we have right now.

And the same thing goes for the marina (and these people just lost their supposed landlord - which no one seems to question since it doesn't seem like anyone knew James was our big baddie here - so what's going to happen now with that when you've got this supposed gentrification plot waiting to happen?) and all the people in it. And then you have Detective Williams just showing up to a major fight and having no backup at the start, just him and Darcy (and yes, I know Fitzmartin has painted EVERY other cop here aside from Detective Willams as the worst of the worst but still, protocols and civilian protection have to amount to something I would think). You don't even see these supposed other cops, only a bunch of civilians cheering Tim on, which again keeps painting this picture of how it's Tim's ideal life and setting, and it's just him against this outside world, asking us to ignore everything good that had happened to Tim before he knew Bernard and the marina. I honestly don't find a single thing about this setup intriguing anymore.
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A critic gave this book a 10 drugs are good

Tim Drake has never, ever, Ever, EVER wanted to be Batman!!!! IT'S BEEN THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT OF HIS CHARACTER SINCE HIS CREATION!!!!

Just when I thought Fitzmartin had finally left all those old detective stories alone, we're greeted with the most uninspired villain touting himself as worthy of comparison to the Joker. To be fair, this current version of Tim Drake is by no means giving Batman a run for his money at this rate either. Moriarty. I'm not sure how I'm supposed to take this seriously when nothing about this run has g iven us anything on par with Sherlock Holmes. This reads as a bad joke, one in which, yet again, Fitzmartin seems to think herself clever with it while once more burying any potential she had with this story in its failed detective aspects. Tim says he would have known about Bernard if he was the villain because the clues would have been right there for him. He supposedly knows Bernard that well. And yet, Tim, who is usually a few steps ahead (granted this doesn't mean he's always at the right place at the right time nor has it made him infallible), who is so quick to pick up on elements in his environments and how to make use of them, could not see what was glaringly obvious in his own boat and the marina he inhabits. He was utterly clueless until the very end.

I would still like to know why James could just waltz onto Tim's boat. Does James actually own it, and like most apartment landlords, has the key and access to it 24/7 should he need it? Or does Tim own the boat and is simply renting out his space at the marina, which is usually the more common thing? I'm still baffled as to why Tim is running his Robin game out of this boat when so many people seem to wander in and out of it. It is in no way secure, and Tim has made absolutely no efforts to secure it either. Why didn't he have some sort of surveillance on the boat to know when it had been accessed? Sure, maybe I'd buy that if he's just renting the boat (but why would he ever rent something so utterly dilapidated then and impossible to secure?) and didn't want to tamper with it, but he'd tamper with hotel rooms so I don't see why a rented boat would make him less inclined for this. Again, this feels like something overlooked purely for the sake of making this plot point work instead of actually crafting a story that fit someone like Tim Drake and his approach. Especially if he knew about these drones watching him, knew anyone could be looking into his windows, see his gear which he seems to forget about, all his clues, which were meant for Robin and not Tim Drake, the civilian. If he wasn't already chasing James as a lead and setting him up, which clearly he wasn't, why didn't he take any security measures?

Which again also makes me ask why he wasn't doing something to track Bernard if he was that concerned about this whole stalker thing and the murders at the marina. The way Fitzmartin writes Bernard the guy would forgive Tim for murder himself, so I don't see how Tim tracking him and apologizing later if found out wouldn't elicit the same response. It felt like a cheap set-up for Tim to angst over his "leaving" Bernard alone and "making it his fault." I get it, things like this happen, but the story doesn't lend itself well to this sort of melodrama, which seems better placed in the CW than what should be a comic of Tim Drake's caliber. Tim can be insecure. He does make miscalculations and mistakes. He is not infallible. However, this comes off more as a whiny teenager than someone who understands the stakes and has understood them for a good portion of his teen -college years (and what is Tim now because I swear he's supposed to be college-aged/early twenties even though so little of her writing between this comic and Dark Crisis:YJ reads like he is). It felt like watching a Tim Drake meltdown rolling into a temper tantrum with Dick, and instead of focusing and trying to solve anything, he's spending his time feeling sorry for himself and his inability to do anything while everyone around him does the work and tries to help. As others have pointed out, his reactions here feel like a complete regression of Tim's character instead of building on the work he did for himself as a character previously. It's painful to watch, and once more, I'm left wondering if this isn't Fitzmartin trying to build her idea of Tim Drake rather than utilizing the character most have known because it's starting to read a lot like someone rewinding a tape just to record over it.

As for the "mystery" itself, we still have no idea how these creations (I'm assuming we're dealing with some sort of golem/homunculus given the clay and salts and alchemy here) are being made other than the clues given that Moriarty is into alchemy on some level at least. Again, why didn't Tim notice any of this before when he clearly had broken disc material to study from his previous encounters, or is there something about these discs that just POOF! once broken, leaving absolutely no trace of them for Tim to work with? It is still never explained how these things have been both intangible and tangible, sometimes to the tune of they can damage things, implying they are physical, and yet no one can hit them, and other times to the song of they're completely corporeal and Tim can climb into their guts. Speaking of, was there no residue at all on Tim for him to study from his Robin uniform to give him some sort of clue about their nature? He makes this claim of them being salt, was there nothing at all from any of his previous fights to take traces from?

And Tim is aware that acid isn't the only thing that dissolves salt, right? He fell into water. Salts can be dissolved/transformed by any number of things, acidic or basic, including water, but depending on the composition of each component and the environment, you might make some unintended/volatile side products, which makes me question him just throwing any random acidic thing on these salt-based creatures. What sort of salt was used? Table salt? If so, why not utilize all the water around you to break them up? And what happened to just breaking the discs since that also seemed to work so well? I still struggle to understand how Tim seems so utterly stupid here. I mean the boy pukes on a shark monster, and I'm assuming he had to have eaten recently because if you have nothing on your stomach you will not puke up any sort of potent volume, certainly not the degree to which you'd need to dissolve a shark. So, did he take a midnight snack break with Dick out there? Most of the contents from your stomach should be passed into the rest of your gut within two hours, so again, where did all that come from if Tim has been searching all this time? Otherwise, he should have been dry heaving at best with that.

(And to imply that Batman taught him how to puke on command seems. . .honestly, most people know how to make themselves puke, it's not some super secret Bat thing. Unless that's Tim referring to Bruce teaching him to think on his feet, in which case, I think Bruce may have some very serious questions about this whole fight. Also I'd just like to state that I'm not a fan of how Fitzmartin has thrown the Batfam under the bus before with Tim's comments and then contradicts them with things like this later on. One minute they're an inconvenience to who he wants to be and then the next they're vital parts of his history that he loves/respects. Yes, these things can co-exist but she writes it in such a jarring way it's like she has no idea at all who her version of Tim Drake actually is.)

Don't even ask me how he escaped his quartering incident because it makes no sense. If these things were that easy to escape from then why were all our heroes having such issues with them across their various incarnations?

And Moriarty. Given how Tim is being written, as quite frankly the dumbest iteration of Tim Drake out there, then, yeah, this villain fits him. That his sole purpose is to be a villain simply because being a goon wasn't enough, and yet having no actual aspirations for his villainy other than to be a villain is quite frankly idiotic. He's got no drive. Just another villain who wants to exist because a hero exists, and it honestly gives absolutely no stakes to the greater world for Tim Drake. Especially given who Moriarty was in the original work and how he went about things and why. There doesn't seem to be some big agenda here, just someone who wants to make Tim's life miserable (and maybe that's the point, someone to make Tim's self-indulgent angst valid), but if that's not the shoddiest bit of villainy there is. Not even a personal connection here to really play on. I mean at least Taylor's Heartless villain had a better build-up and story behind it. And the original Moriarty is so far above this sort of play it's almost painful to watch Fitzmartin use his name in this. The man would be rolling in his grave seeing someone take his name and yet act like this. Everything in this story reads as a caricature honestly. From Tim himself to this new villain of ours.

Finally, Bernard certainly lives up to Fitzmartin's explanation that he's there to be a damsel in distress. It's borderline insulting at this point. (Don't think it escaped me either that we got both Tim and Bernard "bound and gagged" in this issue as well, all things she claimed spoke to their clear unspoken attraction back in their previous run together.) I'm tired of the typical damsel in distress plots. Bernard's already played it out once before, and now we have it again. Is this honestly all he's good for? To show us how incapable Tim Drake is as a detective and how all of Bernard's worth amounts to his ability to be kidnapped and rescued? Do we really need another "princess in the dragon's tower?" Because there's nothing new or genuine being told here with it. It's cliche. It's tired. And no, it's not "reclaiming" or "subverting" anything here. It's just poor storytelling.more

Are the critics reading the same book?? I have yet to meet anyone who likes this book except the critics above. The only thing worst than the art is the writing . I like Tim Drake but the glory days of Chuck Dixon, Tom Grumette, and Mike Wieringo are gone and now we got no talent havks

This book is crap, because of TimBer
What does Tim, see in him?
It's not because Bernard's a guy.
I will take anyone else.
Pleeeaaasssee (Please go away), Just make him ple-ease go away (timber), Plleeeaaaaseee (timber)
Wooooah (timber), anyone else (please), wooooah (this book is crap)


Alright one of the first things we see is Rossmo drawing Nightwing.... ..shudders. This comics starts in midst of the search for Bernard and Dick tries to calm Tim down, and Tim slaps his hand away. Now, it's no secret I'm no fan of Bernard but the way Tim acts here is character regression. He has gone through helping saving people in danger several times, loved ones have been kidnapped before, including Bernard! Tim did show plenty of concern in the past for those put in danger because of him but he always maintained a cool demeanor while on the inside he was filled with self-doubt and guilt. This Tim is a whiny little bitch complaining about everything. Tim, you have saved Bernard before, you've saved other from far more dangerous circumstances, you're more confident than this!

Then Dick starts talking to Tim how it's always difficult starting a new phase in life...Tim knows this...he's done it before! Several times in fact. Tim's keeps doubting himself and how he has "imposter syndrome" about being Robin. My god, he grew past that self-doubt YEARS AGO, this isn't pushing Tim forward it's just bringing him backwards.

Then he finds Bernard and someone sneaks up on him again. So much for being trained by Batman, considering how often people keep sneaking up on him.

But then something happens...Tim wakes up and he looks...different. gasp A new artist, that doesn't draw Tim like a 14 year old with a thumb for a head! Someone splashed some water on his face as he hangs upside down chained up and bruised. And the reveal...GASP THE VILLAIN'S BERNARD!!!

Oh my god! This is SO interesting!! It changes the whole dynamic between them. It make Tim question even more while he's in the confusing time of his life! Bernard actually has a personality, and is starting to become compelling! And his godawful portrayal of a queer character was all a facade to hide his true intentions. Aaaaaaaannnnnnddd it's not actually him....it's an illusion caused by the real villain...James, Tim's landlord.......

ARE YOU F@#KING KIDDING ME?!?!?!?! YOU HAD SOMETHING GREAT THERE, BUT INSTEAD YOU GIVE US THIS BORING PREDICTBLE PLOT?!?! That means the portrayal of Bernard in all of the previous issues was all genuine. Y'know it's sad that I have far better and far more nuanced portrayals of queer characters in "The Golden Girls" a sitcom FROM THE 80'S than a comic made in 2023!

Okay...where was I...oh yeah. So while the art is a massive improvement, the writing still sucks. This guy is obsessed with being Tim's nemesis and throwing all these illusions at Tim. And Tim escapes them by literally throwing up on one of them.....honestly kind of how I feel about this book most of the time.

Then the bad guy reveals his name as "Moriarty".....wow....how original. You had a decent concept going on here, but leaning into the obsession with detective novels is bringing this down. You're trying to push this drag Queen version of one of the greatest literary antagonists of all time, and want him to be Tim's new nemesis. Hate to break it to you Morty, but Tim's already got The General, Anarky, King Snake, Lynx, The Council of Spiders, Scarab, Jaeager, Johnny Warlock, and plenty of other villains who have more of a grudge with Tim than you.

But then at the final page Rossmo returns to draw Bernard bound up and gaged in chains, like the "perfect damsel" he is. This is one of the most frustrating issues so far....and it is sadly also the best issue so far.more

I weep for DC.

Normally I don't like multiverse stories, I think they are overdone and O feel the multiverse needs to come to an end, but damn Chip you got me hooked!

I know this is blasphemy to say....but I like Hawthorne's artwork more than Jorge's ( starts dodging tomatoes ) Sorry, not sorry. Just something about it feels more Batman-y to me, I don't know how else to put it.

I cannot wai t to see where Chip is gonna take it from here. Also sassy skeleton Jim Gordon, is my new favorite character. I finally found the character that resonates with me the most. I need an on-going spin-off stat!

Now onto the Tim story:

THANK GOD!!! Someone who actually knows how to write my boy!! Chip has his character down, unlike that other book. I finally recognize the kid with a big brain and an even bigger heart that I know and love. That. Being. Said......I was very disappointed with this story.

First off, wasn't Dick captured by Failsafe in Gotham? How did he escape? Is Gotham still under Failsafe's control? Why is Tim teaming up with Jon instead of Conner, his best friend? Where is Conner anyways? Why does DC keep teaming Jon up with every Robin except the one we actually want to see him team up with?

The art by Mendosca is great, but I really hate how Tim's hair is being drawn in this run, I know it's an odd thing to harp on, but I just don't like how it looks. Now, don't get me wrong, this story is not bad by any means. I've just seen it done before already...and done significantly better in "Red Robin." Seriously if you enjoyed this story, please go read the first 12 issues of Red Robin, and Adventure Comics #3 by Geoff Johns while you're at it. It is the exact same plot. C'mon Chip you could've come up with something else.more

(*In old-timey announcer guy voice*)
Previously on "Thanks I hate it" Starring Timblr & Bernard as the "Manic Pixie Femboy". Timblr acted so out of character, after taking down a squad of fake Robins. But Bernard is now Tim's boyfriend so it makes it all better. Will SmartA55 be able to make it through this issue with all his hair attached to his head?

(We now return to your regu larly scheduled smarminess)

Alright let's get all the usual complaints out of the way:

*Tim looks like Sid from Toy Story
*Ber-Nard, Ber-Nard, Dude looks like a lady!
*Tim is acting incredibly OOC & is acting like an idiot
*Narration boxes, over-narrating everything
*Bernard dressed up in a ridiculous outfit
*Tim being written as Gay not Bi
*Rossmo's character designs are unpleasant to look at
*Blah, blah, blah, TUMBLR, blah blah

Positives first, I gotta say, the coloring in this series has been pretty good throughout. So thank you Loughridge, you have been the one consistently good thing throughout this book.

*sigh* And onto negatives:

Tim, CLOSE YOUR DAMN CURTAINS!!! Tim is supposed to be someone who takes every precaution to keep his identity safe, but he leaves his windows wide open where a drone can easily view him?! I remember during "Knightfall" when Bruce scolded him for eating in costume in a room filled with windows. Seriously, this is supposed to be the same guy who once faked an assassination attempt in order to keep his identity intact, yet he doesn't even use any form of security measures on his boat?! I really don't like this Marina setting, it makes zero sense for Tim, why a boat?! Then, Bernard gets all in a huff about that one guy getting fired and being called a degenerate, the same guy who in the last issue admitted to peeing in the Marina. Why would Tim want to live here of all places? Why did he ever leave Wayne Manor? Why doesn't he go live with his friends? Why doesn't he rebuild the place they used at the end of Red Robin?

Oh and then Bernard calls Tim "Superboy's Biggest fan........Alright that's it!

*grabs keys, stomps out of the room, starts up car, screeching down the street.*

*About a half-hour later*

*Car comes screeching back, door slams, runs inside, stomps up the stairs* Okay! *takes off earrings of freshly pierced ears* ENOUGH WITH THE TIMKON QUEERBAITING!!!

It's abundantly clear that this is the real reason why they decided to make Tim bisexual, not because of Bernard (and I'll get to him soon) but because they just want to get to TimKon. It has been not so subtly teased ever since the Tim Drake Pride special, and it just continues here. If the plan was to have Tim admit his feelings for Conner, then why not do that in the first place?! I may think TimKon is the wrong route but it makes far more sense that his current relationship. It just makes Bernard all the more superfluous.

I really cannot stand Bernard. He serves no purpose to the plot but being a kind and supportive cute little boytoy to be Tim's little cheerleader,, and someone for Tim to just fawn over and protect. I joked before, but Bernard is literally a "Manic Pixie Femboy" he serves no purpose. He's just there to be cute, to boost Tim's mood, and steer him in the right direction. He's not even that cute! He doesn't resemble the character he's supposedly based off of in the slightest. Bernard used to be filled with personality, acting weird (albeit somewhat annoyingly), outgoing, and snarky. Here, he's not a character, he's a walking gay caricature. This isn't even about Stephanie, I'm fine with Tim dating someone other than her (it's not preferred but I can live with it) but all of his other previous relationships, while I wasn't fond of most of them, all of them were characters that had characteristics beyond being a love interest. Take his first girlfriend Ariana. Ari was the daughter of immigrants, who lived with her aunt & uncle after her father was murdered, and had dreams of being a fashion designer. Now some of you may say "SmartA55, be fair they're only 4 issues in" well all of those facts about Ariana were established in 3 issues of a 6-issue mini and the first issue of the Dixon "Robin" run.

If this were about two brand new gay characters, I would think it was cute but mediocre. However, these are two established characters who are now bisexual. Bernard is written like a precious little puppy dog that needs to be protected, and not someone who has already gone through traumatic events, like say, a gang war taking place in the very school where Tim & Bernard first met. We could have had a story about two guys reconnecting after years apart only to realize that there is a growing attraction between them, something that neither of them had expected and yet it felt right despite it being something that neither one of them considered an option. But no, instead of a nuanced portrayal of the complex situation of realizing one's sexuality, we just get basic ass gay romance between a one-dimensional sack of cardboard and a beloved character reduced to a parody of his former glory. Tim's identity is exposed, and instead of immediately jumping into action, he has to cuddle with Bernard. PRIORITIES TIM!!!

Then he goes to ask the Batgirls for help, and we don't even get one awkward moment between him and Steph, not one?! That is a goldmine for character moments and you don't use it!!!! Then they have to fight a giant goldfish. Which reminds me, that was part of the solicit for the previous issue and the solicit for this issue spoils the ending! What the heck DC?!

There's so much more I could say, but honestly I've written enough as it is.

I know this sounds harsh, but it's just how I feel. If you guys like this, I'm happy for you, but I think you deserve better. Maybe it's because I recently reread "Red Robin" before reading this, and let's just say that's kinda like watching the Nolan trilogy followed by the Shumacher movies. I really want Tim to have his own book, but this, this isn't it. I wanna see this turn around,

I really do, but this direction is all wrong.

Now, we'll just wait til next time when Tim faces off against Maximillian Pegasus....yay? more

Was Tim always this bad at being a detective? I thought we were done with the weird ghost things that I guess aren't very ghostly anymore. None of this is making sense. And why hasn't tim even tried to figure out how these things are being made? I thought he was a genius detective. And why does the bad guy look like some rejected joker? Might as well give Tim the D-list prince of crime because thi s kid can't solve his way out of paper bag. This story is so bad.more

Let me start by saying, having seen more comments about the matter, that Rossmo's art isn't the main issue here for me. While I do continue to agree that this style wasn't the best fit for a Tim Drake book, it's still a style that has its place in the industry. Part of the issue with the art, though, is that it gives us one sense of a story while the actual story itself provides another, and I fee l that this disconnect remains. Again it begs the question - who is the target audience for this story? Is this supposed to be a YA-centric tale? A continuation of the Tim Drake we knew from before? If there is a specific audience in mind, then marketing has failed abysmally on this point (but I imagine they were hoping to capture that nostalgia crowd while also shooting for a brand new one), and I think that is, in part, why there is such a divisive, almost contentious air around this comic's reception. That being said, I don't think anyone at DC really knows who this story is for at this point. It feels a lot like they're fishing around for that audience and trying to see what lands and what doesn't, and in the process, it's hurting Tim Drake's reputation. But artwise, Loughridge continues to be fantastic on coloring, and starting with the last issue, Rossmo's art feels like has finally settled into itself for this story. (I don't know if this is a matter of "doing better work" on other comics or whether this is some stylistic adjustments made for this particular comic as some artists will shift their style, within their own style, to work with the setting/atmosphere a certain story is going for.) Rossmo, though, for me, is not the real problem with this comic. I can adjust to art style if the story is good, and the writing still remains horribly lackluster and disjointed, in my opinion.

I'm beginning to wonder if the Tim Drake we are seeing here isn't being treated as some sort of blank slate. This idea of "Tim had no direction" and "Tim doesn't know who he is" rings very hollow when you read his previous runs. Within the first issue of Red Robin, I got a very clear idea of Tim and his emotional state, how he was reacting to the world and situations around him, and that told me we have a very defined person here, even if he is now trying to define himself outside of Robin. So, now I am questioning whether or not I'm supposed to be taking into account any of his previous history other than the fact that he once dated Steph and Cassie (take what you will of that based on her interpretation of that relationship for her Dark Crisis YJ run) and he became Robin. This current series almost seems as though it's taking a completely different direction, and asking previous readers (or new ones like me just discovering his old series) to forget who he had been so a new Tim Drake can be reconstructed as Fitzmartin believes he, as a character, should be, and not building on who he had already been. In this sense, it feels as if Fitzmartin is treating Tim as her own OC. Slapping a love of detective stories, saying "who am I if I'm not Robin," and giving him the costume does not Tim Drake make. He's a wonderfully nuanced character, and I'm just not seeing that here with him.

Part of that being, as I've taken issue with before, is just how utterly stupid Tim seems here. You're talking about a guy who made plans for the plans he already had sometimes. There are things he picked up on from being with Batman. I do not understand why, when he knows he has this "stalker," he's leaving his windows clear open for anyone to look inside his boat, including while he is researching this case. (Or you know, for someone to snap pictures of him, because that was the drone there in that one shot, wasn't there?) You're telling me Tim knows this villain knows who he is, and he's just letting anyone and everyone peep into his boat? Also, why does he not have some sort of security system on this thing? The landlord just waltzed in. Villains break in. (Or maybe they waltzed in too!) He has done nothing to secure his place. Hell, why didn't he even have a tracker on Bernard if he was that concerned? Seems like something Tim might do and apologize later for if found out. Also, why not grill Bernard on "letting a superhero" onto his boat? Seems like a prime opportunity to bring home the fact that maybe you can't trust just anyone, Bernard, including vigilantes, even if they seem like the good guys, and maybe create some breathing room for his secret identity. Since that also seems to be a sticking point about keeping Bernard safe at this moment.

I'm also not clear on why Bernard called out to him with "Superboy's biggest fan" when he easily could have just called him "Boy wonder" and gotten Tim's attention that way. We haven't even seen why Bernard would call Tim this unless I missed some sort of interaction with Tim Drake (as Tim Drake and not Robin), Bernard, and Superboy that would explain why Bernard feels getting Tim's attention with that was the best way to go about it. Also, again, how is Tim so distracted walking about the marina, with its rampant murders, and ends up caught off guard yet again by Bernard? These constant lapses in his judgment, given this escalating situation, only make Tim seem stupider than we all know he is. This also brings back home for me again how Fitzmartin tends to make assumptions about her own story by putting things that lack the context to hold them as she hasn't done to story work to bring the readers the understanding they need to place these little moments. You can certainly build up these little character idiosyncrasies, but they have to be placed well and eventually given context to uphold them.

I do also think that instead of getting more insight into Bernard and building on his character, the scenes we got for him were only there to prop Tim up. Again, something that can be fine and well if Bernard were a better established character at this point, but right now, his only purpose in this comic seems to provide a counterpoint to Tim's old life rather than being someone who is just that important to Tim. We're once again told how important Bernard is and not really shown it. Even when saying he wants to protect Bernard, this is undermined by Tim then saying he can protect everyone almost immediately after. It diminished the importance of Bernard to me. Also, Tim's reaction to the kidnapping seemed to contain yet again little thought in interacting with this new villain (which would have been the prime place to put that internal monologue of Tim analytically dissecting this phone call and new voice!) and was far more reactionary than Tim Drake typically tends to be. Show us Tim saying one thing while breaking it all down in his head rapid fire! That would have been a great call back to his Red Robin series and how it worked there.

I would also like to know how many times Bernard is going to get kidnapped because while this plot point is not new and is very often used and used again, it was literally the point of their introduction as a couple as we got to see it in his Pride/UL story. Which we basically just got. I know Fitzmartin herself said Bernard is there to be Tim's damsel-in-distress, but could we not?

I did find the interactions with Steph very stilted, though, and not in that "we just broke up and are trying to figure our work relationship out now" sort of way. It was weirdly impersonal-personal. A few comments here and there that let you know Steph knows Tim better than an acquaintance but lacking any real warmth. Again, because we have so little to go on with these two since the breakup, you can argue this any number of ways as to why it plays out like that on the pages, but the one sticking point remains in that their situation was not handled well from the start. This was brought up back during the whole Pride event storyline, and it's showing itself again here.

In conclusion, I still think this is a hot mess of a series. There are far too many discrepancies and contradictions in this story for me to suspend my belief reasonably. Comics do ask you to do that to varying degrees (hello, Batman #130), but Fitzmartin clearly struggles with voice here and doesn't seem to have a clear idea of who Tim Drake is herself, despite all her talk about it. Her writing is playing out far differently for me, and the more I see of previous Tim Drake stories, the clearer this is starting to become. It's unfortunate a character as amazing as Tim Drake is falling prey to this level of writing. He's truly great, worthy of standing there with any of his fellow Robins. As others here have said, I also highly recommend tuning into the Red Robin run if you haven't yet. But as far as this story goes, with this big new villain reveal, I'm not impressed. It's been a poor set-up all the way through, and this is beginning to feel more like a circus than a detective story with any weight behind it.

(Apparently, my main review is way beyond the max here but you can read the whole thing over at https://leagueofcomicgeeks.com/comic/3709319/tim-drake-robin-4)more

Soooo this was better than the last issue but it's still really bad. I don't know where she gets some of this stuff she says about the other robins because it's not anything like them at all and Tim still doesn't act like Tim at all in here. Like is saying he's solving crimes all its takes to make him a detective now because he's also really bad at that. And like other people have said why did Tim just follow after Bernard when people were looking for him? It's like we needed a moment for them but it was at the worst time possible and it made Tim look really really stupid. He even took a shower after freaking out about Bernard almost seeing his mask in the boat! And why does Bernard have access to the boat if Tim does his robin stuff out of there too? That's like asking to be found out! Also why did Bernard give him the note when he was right here on the boat too? Does he know who robin really is? I think it's be funny if he's the villain because that would be the icing on this cake of stupidity. Really. This whole series gets dumber and dumber every issue. I really love Tim but it's hard to read him like this. Pretty sure a fifth grader is smarter than Tim at this point. All the other robins sure as hell are so maybe you were right to be having nightmares about that Tim because this writer writes you dumber than all of them.more

Atrocious is the word