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10
Ok, so my rating isn’t just for this issue, but the whole saga as a whole. So I guess I’m cheating. I just sat down and read from issue one of Sinister War (including the ASM issues tied in) that I had been stockpiling to read all at once. I am apparently in the minority because I think it’s bloody good!
True, it’s not over yet because we have two more issues of Spencer’s run, but being an old guy who noticed all the nods to Peter’s past throughout all of this, I was in fanboy heaven. Was the whole thing just a lot of fighting? Didn’t care. It was the tried and true formula of putting Peter thru hell and I enjoyed the heck out of it. Even I had to sit there and ask “when did Spidey fight Grey Gargoyle again?”
Overall, I think Spencer’s run will be remembered as one of my favorites. A billion times better than Slott’s, who had some good ideas that never panned out or finished well in my opinion.
So, as far as this specific issue goes, it was a little thin…but I knew when I started reading that it wasn’t over just yet. This run has been my favorite Marvel comic on the stands (Black Widow and the new Moon Knight series are right up there though, too) and I am going to be damn sad to see it end. more
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10
I'm becoming increasingly ashamed of liking this when I look back at all the backlash this issue is getting. But I can't help it. I just think it's a good comic. It's not the most plot heavy comic, and it's not the place for all the answers. That's Amazing Spider-Man. This is just a big fight. And it's well done. There's an amazing Bagley double page spread in here of Spider-Man fighting all these characters. I liked the resolution to this story. Boomerang completes his character arc by sacrificing himself for Spider-Man. For being the hero Peter thought he could be. Doc Ock ends up outsmarting Kindred, which is such a Doc Ock thing to do, and I'm very glad about that because no one wanted Ock to be a villain again, and he's not. Kindred loses here, and this time it's not some ploy, he just loses. I could see the Mephisto bookend could be annoying and frustrating to some, but I think it shows that Peter beat Mephisto. By being Spider-Man. This is a refutation to Kindred's whole ideology regarding Peter. He thinks Peter causes pain and misery to those around him, but by being a hero, he was able to reform people and make them better. Kindred was counting on these villains to kill Peter. But because Spider-Man is a hero and is a good person at his core, his own villains went against Kindred. Kindred lost, and Mephisto lost, just because Peter is such a hero. And I think that's worth something.
It seems this run is damned if it does, and damned if it doesn't. So much is overlooked by the readers because all they want is One More Day undone. The complaint that nothing is happening is kind of a bullshit complaint. It's not that nothing is happening, it's just that you aren't getting the immediate answers you want. Like, think back on how much of this run was deemed filler just because it wasn't about Kindred. And it turns out, it all mattered. And is this partly Nick Spencer's fault for creating a mystery and deciding to not fully unravel it until the very end? Yeah, I guess so. But I feel like this speaks to a broader problem with comic book fans, spurred on by the hyperbolic promises of every single story being the biggest story ever, and having a major event every single year. People don't have the patience anymore for this sort of thing, and everything a writer does before delivering every answer is overshadowed. And I have to add that caveat of *every* answer, because there have been answers, just not the big One More Day answer.
You know what, I'm not ashamed after all. more
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8.5
This whole series was mostly just filler. While we saw most of what Kindred was up to in Amazing, these 4 issues covered Spidey fighting a horde of rampaging supervillains. It would have been better if there was more motivation to this than just being a means of stalling Spider-Man while Kindred plots his final move.
One of the highlighted moments is how Doc Ock gets the better of Kindred. He has stated on more than one occasion over the last 6 decades that he's not one to be manipulated, and that's still the case with him to this day.
I'm sorry to see nothing was resolved with the real and fake Electro. Now that the real one's back we can ditch the female wannabe (That or she could make up a new name and be his partner in crime).
Now that this is over the final showdown awaits. Hmm. This plot would make a keen video game. more
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8.0
Art was good not great which I wanted. though I would prefer that only Mark Bagley (my favourite Spidey artist) only drawn the entire issue or two artist at most.
Man, Boomerang died. I started to like the guy but he died. That sucks. But I like the fact he died on his own term with saving his friend.
I liked the Doc Ock role here.
But I felt Three teams, Savage Six, Sinister Six and Superior Foes would be enough instead of 6 teams. Morlun and Sin Eater and everyone else looked kinda forced. With 3 team, focus can be made them more which in turn would make it even better IMO.
Now Kindred vs Spidey showdown is coming which I expected in this issue.
Dr Strange and Mephisto conversation was quite interesting IMO.
What does Mephisto mean by "He should celebrate small victories. I have big feeling big loss is imminent." What big loss is coming?
"He is walking away from a fight where odds were devastating stacked against him." Why does this dialogue mirror something I wish to forget?
Another week to wait for Kindred vs Spidey. This is part that sucks the most.
Do someone agree with me that Spencer absolute best in Spidey was Last Remains and Hunted arc. They were Absolute best of his run. Sinister War started exciting but by the end it is lacklustre. more
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6.5
It technically wasnt bad but, this mini series literally accomplished nothing worthwhile. It was just 4 issues of action and no substance.
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6.5
omg this terrible
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6.5
I thought this was better than the previous issue but it still was just a drawn out fight. I did enjoy Dr. Oct's role. It would have been disappointing if he was just another guy chasing spiderman in this mess. my favourite part of the whole series was seeing Otto do what he does best. I do miss him as superior spiderman. On the other hand, I did not like how Morlan was handled. It seems like a single punch took him out. I can buy into what Dr octopus did would take him out but the way it was told seemed like he was already taken out by a single punch. That's kinda the overall problem I have this this series. A massive fight with so many villains but almost none of the fight depicted seemed to matter or hold any weight.
And killing boomerang... Yeah, that sucks. I had grown to like the character. more
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6.0
Man for such a promising and fun start, Spencer's run is really going out on a lull. After fully developing Boomerang into such a great character it's a shame how his death felt so rushed and almost glossed over to lose all emotional weight it should have held. The play to have Doc Oc foil kindred's plan was solid as true to the character but the conclusion to this "war" doesn't read like an end and should have had a confrontation between Peter and Kindred. Really hoping the next ASM issue has a somewhat satisfying conclusion.
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6.0
At this point I just want this to end since all the problems I mentioned before are only getting worse: The bad inconsistent script, bad dialogue and the horrible art management. On top of that the OMD teasing seems like bait and switch as usual. I never ever felt like this reading ASM and it is disappointing.
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6.0
It was entertaining enough for the mess of a story it is. After 4 issues of fighting doc ock saves the day and its like this series had zero importance. For Spencer's run or Spider-Man in general. How do 40 supervillains show up in NYC and not one of the 500 heroes in the area not show up to help? I think Spider-Man would have been justified texting one his super friends. And I still am waiting for this big Kindred payoff.
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5.5
What was the point of all this? Other than to put Bagley draw as many Spider-Man villains as he can (and even that we didn't get much of since he didn't draw all the issues). Boomerang's sacrifice was so cheap, Ock's "redemption" was sooo predictable. Talk about event fatigue. I swear, if Spencer doesn't deliver on ASM #875 big time, his run won't be remembered pretty well. And I say that as someone who's enjoyed it.
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5.0
Sinister War comes to an abrupt end. Spidey survives and Kindred is foiled when the most and least noble of the villains turn against him. The art suffers from the usual "too many cooks" problem. The script is pretty impressive, though, which I credit to Ed Brisson. This must have been hellishly difficult to write, and he did formidable yeoman work. More Spidey narration than Nick Spencer would have used, which is a treat. The resolution makes sense, but it feels too small for the buildup. It's certainly too small for the fatality incurred at the end of the fight.
As to Kindred's interminable narration, I quote the great Star Trek VI: "I'd give real money if he'd shut up."
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4.0
Crap. There is no other way to describe this. It's crap. Not only that, it's a pointless crap that makes no sense. Spider-Man didn't change at all during this story arc and his life was never "ruined" as Spencer tried to imply. Nothing happened, actually... Nothing! And the way Spidey manages to get out of trouble is so idiotic I think it was written while Spencer was shitting in Marvel's toilets the day the story was approved. Thank God this garbage is over, now we only have two issues left to understand what the heck is Kindred trying to do.
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4.0
So. That was it?
What a pointless storyline. I was very hyped for Sinister War but this 4 issues were just fighting. Fighting with 3 different artist working on it, which means it feels even more messy.
And the resolution? Well, we're back were we started. Things haven't moved at all since the first issue of this storyline. There wasn't any conclusion in here for storylines set up in Hunted, Sins Rising, King's Ransom and Chameleon Conspiracy. The villains showed up. They fought Spidey. Kindred has some monologue. Repeat. The end.
Yes, the plot did move in the ASM tie-ins, but not here. Why even make this one a 7-part storyline when it barely has enough story for 4 parts?
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2.0
Comic written for the lowest common denominator.
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2.0
So I just read this issue..... and wow. To say Marvel dropped the ball on this event is an understatement. A better analogy would be Marvel running, tripping, and faceplanted so hard that they broke their nose. This is Game of Thrones Season 8 of Spider-Man stories. This will be a non-spoiler review
Lets address the elephant in the room: The Art style. I agree with The Dark Knight Detective on this one. Yes great story with bad art can still work but this is Nick Spencer's final story on Spider-Man. You're telling me Marvel couldnt let Mark Bagley just draw every issue like how Jorge Jiminez is drawing Fear State? Even then the art is very inconsistent and it really sticks out like a sore thumb.
The second problem with this event is how underwhelming this event was. It was hyped and it had lackluster endings. I wont spoil anything, but while you see the villains being defeated, it was very lame. Doctor Strange and Mephisto meeting? We thought it was supposed to address One More Day right? Yeah, it didnt. Literally, Mephisto and Dr strange meeting had NO impact on the story. As far as I remember, I dont even think Kindred appeared that much in this issue.
Third, this issue said that Spider-Man is going to beaten so bad that its going to be shocking. So I'm expecting Spider-Man to get destroyed like how Angrir (Fear Itself) or Morlun or Iron Patriot or Jack o Lantern in Civil War or Phoenix Possessed Colossus and Magik beat him up. But the only thing that happened in this event was a C list villain gets murdered, that's literally disappointing.
I understand how Nick Spencer's run is supposed to be Peter Parker breaking the cycle and becoming more mature instead of a man-child, but when you have stories where Spider-Man saves the day by literally talking for 90 percent of the run, it is not worth it. Dan Slott may have ruined Spider-Man's character but at least his stories were pretty engaging.
Now, before people get pissed off I want to say that I am a Spider-Man fanboy, if you cant tell from my username. Spider-Man is my favorite superhero of all time, my first memory was a Spider-Man toy and my first toy, game, clothes, school supply, pillow and blanket even my own Car Keys is all on Spider-Man. I have read every single issue featuring Spider-man, and that includes the ALTERNATE versions of Spider-Man like Ultimate Spider-Man, Earth X, Exiles, Marvel Adventures, Marvel Mangaverse, etc.
The first WORDS in the Sam Raimi Spider-Man trilogy is "Who am I? You sure you want to know?" and its 3 minutes and 7 minutes in the run time. Raimi's Uncle Ben dies 43:35 in the first movie. The last WORDS in Sam Raimi's Spider-Man trilogy is Mary Jane singing "I mean to care for no one" in Spider-Man 3. Andrew Garfield's Peter Parker says "oh my god, oh my god" when he sees Uncle Ben dead around 45:45 in the first Amazing Spider-Man.
Heck, the first SENTENCE in a Spider-Man comic book was "Like Costume Heroes?" The last words Uncle Ben said in the comic before he passed away was not "With Great Power comes Great Responsibility" but it was "You're not fooling me Petey! I know you're awake, and its time for school." So Believe me when I say that I LOVE Spider-Man, even more than Marvel and DC Comics combined. I'm the biggest Spider-Man fan in my NEIGHBORHOOD, and I am writing this review as objectively as possible. I learned from my mistake with Ta Nehisi Coates Captain America review (where I was acting like a complete lunatic) which is why I deleted that review so I can learn my mistake, be more open-minded and objective as possible.
Thats why I have been giving lower scores to DC Comics now, because even though I like both Marvel Movies and DC Comic books I want to be fair as much as possible without letting my bias show through and I'm willing to admit that there are some cracks in certain comic book series.
If you honestly like this series, then thats fine because you're enjoying yourself and you shouldnt be attacked for having a harmless opinion. For me, this series is very underwhelming. I want to like this entire series, but it has inconsistent art, underwhelming resolutions, and bloated pacing. more
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1.0
Файнали, в точке D. Спасибо за 4 номера швыряний Паркера из стороны в сторону!
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