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LOL You said a funny thing.
It’s been The Joker all along, you see.
Selina Kyle knows this. Early in her career as Catwoman, he was there to mess things up for her. Same with later, when she and Batman were finally getting together...for the third time, but still. That time stuck. No thanks to The Joker. Or to Phantasm, who now has her sights set on Catwoman because she thinks that will be her in to get after The Joker herself. And she has to do it before Batman gets to him first.
With Batman/Catwoman #3, the threads are starting to weave together. It's still too soon to see where King is taking this story, but so far it's a fascinating journey. With top-notch work from King and Mann, this book is always goes to the top of my reading list when a new issue arrives. Read Full Review
I am enjoying this run so far, but I am concerned that the pace is going to come back and haunt this series. I guess only time will tell. Read Full Review
This is definitely inspired by King's more stand-alone, cerebral work as much as his Batman run, and it's paying off. Read Full Review
Clay Mann delivers some beautifully detailed and impressive art throughout this issue. There is a dark beauty to the visuals in this story and the art plays into the tension of the story especially in the scenes between mother and daughter. Read Full Review
Too much of Future State traded in a sense of anything can happen with a depressing notion that the heroes' work ultimately is in vain. Catwoman helped to prove a reminder that just staying true to the characters can lead to organic fun that doesn't need to get squashed out for the same of high drama. Read Full Review
We are finally getting some real juice to this story "and for the first time, I am eagerly awaiting the next issue. Read Full Review
DC Comics' Batman Catwoman continues to humanize a mythos that feels huge. King, Mann, Morey and Cowles tell a story of heroism that is tainted by the grit of our day-to-day ethics. It's not black and white, it's not right and wrong: it's complicated and messy. And with every new issue, it promises to get messier. Read Full Review
Batman/Catwoman #3 finally starts tethering plot points together to create a compelling exploration of Catwoman's dual life as both a vigilante and a criminal. The pull Joker and Batman had on her is similar to the pull her daughter, Batwoman, has on her in the future, which proves to be quite the intense melodrama. Read Full Review
Bat Cat #3 is available today so make sure you pick it up and add it to the top of your reading pile as this is my most recommended DC story out today! Let us know what you thought of the issue by leaving your comments below. Read Full Review
While not as action-packed as the previous chapter, this issue adequately sets up the mystery of Selina's connection with The Joker and creates a sense of dread for her encounter with The Phantasm. Read Full Review
King and Mann's contradictory depictions of Catwoman define this otherwise enjoyable step forward in the Batman/Catwoman mystery. Read Full Review
Batman/Catwoman #3 is another solid, though somewhat languid entry into the series. I want some more blood in its teeth and even what should be a prominent action sequence ends before it really gets going. The texture, detail, and atmosphere remains impeccable, but King's decision to split the narrative across three time periods is starting to show some weaknesses in the approach. When you're trying to tell three stories at once, the entire picture better be worth the price of uneven pacing. Read Full Review
Batman/Catwoman #3 is the start of the plots really taking form, leading to some genuinely intriguing threads. However, the inconsistent pacing of the different plots means that parts of the issue drag, while others really shine. Read Full Review
When all is said and done, Batman Catwoman #3 leaves me liking it less than I want to. While each scene is delivered with the classic one-two punch of excellent writing and great art, the narrative never comes together for me. And while a little mystery in a storys presentation can help fuel a sense of drama, too much can leave a reader feeling lost and confused. Sadly, this was how I felt as I put this book down. Read Full Review
The latest issue of Batman/Catwoman brings us some great things as we get one of the best scenes from Tom King in a long time. We also get to see some fan favorite characters and what they are up to in the future. That said, most of this issue did not do much to move the story forward. There are small things that move the story slightly but nothing really that big takes place in this book. It's a bit disappointing, but overall the book was still very good. Read Full Review
The result is an issue that is messy, confusing, and a little overcooked with a story that could have just been a one-shot. Read Full Review
10 por este comissário, só por isso.
The art is amazing and the story is a great deeper look into the plausible future with a Kyle and Wayne match but a book where phantasm is in it is perfect.
Tom King is the best writer (and the best Batman writer) in years. I can’t get enough. This is why I read superhero comics.
Smart narrative about morality and revenge that cohesively weaves itself through multiple timelines without missing a beat. If you want a story that holds your hand and treats you like an idiot, I'm sure there are other books out there.
If you want to make an argument, focus on the book itself instead of insulting other people, eh? It's fine to like it, it's fine to dislike it. The least you can do is write down your personal experiences with it and explain why you gave it this particular score.
Great issue again! Art and writing are so good, I love this book! Can't wait for the next one.
Great!
I enjoyed King's script in this installment and the artwork is amazing. King's take on the Joker is spot on. The Joker creates a moral dilemma for Selina in order to reveal her true self. Meanwhile, Helena has suspicions about her mother that she really doesn't want to consider. In the present, Selina has to deal with the Phantasm who is out for her blood.
7,8!
Still interesting and the art is just fantastic, but the plot moves forward so incredibly slowly that it feels like nothing has actually happened in this issue.
A little annoying to read tbh.
I hate to say it, but there isn’t much here and it’s a drop for us.
I give it a 3 solely for Mann's art which is as great as ever, but the story was pure horseshit. Yes, the usual King fanboys will rate it with 10, 9.5 or 9 but don't believe that, they would rate it the same way if King would fill the book with "Bat", "Cat" and "Mreeeow", they're just brainwashed and want so badly to feel smart. And I've said this before, the title of the book is pure bait, Batman is barely in the book, this is not about him at all. Also while reading it I was wondering if King suffered an aneurysm or something because for several pages he kept having Selina just "mrrow"-ing. But like I said, for some people, that's just great writing lol. :))
You're pathetic. Tom King fanboys are obviously going to read a book *written* for fans of his Batman. It sounds like you only read it because you don't like the idea that, without you, it might have a positive user score. Your review is even almost entirely that. Maybe people wouldn't be giving it those 10s if Tom King didn't have a band of no-brain stalkers review bombing his work, while openly admitting they have no other reason to be reading it.
Also, maybe that was a bit hostile of me, and I am actually sorry about that. I just can't put myself in that mindset. Like if I hate a writer, I'm not likely to follow them on their side endeavours.
King cant write Batman it's that simple. He was yanked off the main title 15 issues early. He was given this run as consolation. Did we expect a sudden rise in quality? What's the common thread with nearly all of Kungs work on Batman? The art was good. Not the song quotes. Not the literature quotes. Not the bat/cat dialogue. Not the rehashed plots. Then DC hands the reins to Tynion. A mediocre hack protege of Snyder who gives us Joker War a rehash of city of Bane a rehash of Knightfall.
Bat fans are champing at the bit for a good Batman run again. DC gives us Tynion and Tamaki after King ground the title to halt with his lethargic writing. Batman black and white has been the only fix for Bat fans currently and that's not enough. DC needs to wake up and shake King Tynion and Snyder loose.
I'm a huge Bat fan and I loved Tom King's Batman. Don't assume for the rest of us. Batman has been written with many different voices for 85 years, and Tom King is one of them. His writing style was a lot more esoteric than most Batman titles, but that's what made it good to me. My point here is you know exactly what you're getting now with Batman/Catwoman, it's no longer the main Bat book and probably never should have been. If you read it and expect differently after 85 examples, it's on you
Also can we please stop getting stuck on nicknames? They call each other Bat and Cat. Yes. They have for like 70 issues probably now. It's their gross couple nicknames.
I do get what you mean though. I personally am okay with Tynion IV's Batman, but compared to the past there has been a lack of like big bread and butter Batman stories. I personally hope Chip Zdarsky can throw his hat into the ring soon.
You're entitled to enjoying king on batman but he early departure on the title speaks volumes. The stuck on nicknames thing is merely a glaring example of how kings dialogue for batman grates on so many fans. Its banal to the point of being stupidly so.
It's one thing to have a writing style its another to constantly utilize literary and song quotes in lieu of actual writing. King cant seem to let that crutch go.
Tynion is very lazy and uncreative to me. Joked war was with of bane which had just happened and city of bane king made no mystery of saying is his fleshed out knightfall. DC has to get a better writer on the flagship title. Heck yes Zdarsky a shot.
And yeah I'm a huge batman myself that's why I hate seeing the character done a disservice like this. Again..art is subjective..you enjoy kings work on batman I see his take as lethargic and contrived. We both seem to agree on Tynion to various degrees though.
Oh look, an angry fanboy, just what I expected. :)) Turns out King didn't put enough "mrrow" in the book and he's upset about it. Look, dude, first of all, I'm not the only one rating it low here in case you didn't notice. Second, no, King's writing is not smart, he just makes people feel smart because of his pretentious style and people feel the need to feel smart so rate it with 10. Stop being so butthurt because you realised you're not as smart as you thought you were.
And no, I don't hate King, I actually liked his Batman up until #50. But after that he started to rest on his laurels and actually started believing he is this Alan Moore of today, fans indulged him and now we have... this. This is not good. It's just not. And if the name on the cover was any other writer, it would've been rated with 5 and 6. But since it's King, people are actually pretending it's good which is a problem.
There are 8 other people here who rated it under 5. I'm not alone in this, as much as you want to believe that.
You're far more patient with kings batman than I was merlyn. I was cautious with the Gotham girl storyline because super powered types need really good writing to fit in Gotham. Then...rooftops hit...I tuned King out after that issue. I came back for I am bane only for the art (there's that well the art is good) and I got the pre doomsday clock issues purely for completion on the future series.
After that king couldnt lure me back. The literature quotes. The song quotes. The stupid bat/cat banter. The snail pace. City of Bane being a RIP off of knightfall. Then killing Alfred..sorry..cant buy that.
No, I actually liked his run up until there. Snyder did wonders with Batman but at some point he was running out of ideas and it was showing. King came with a breath of fresh air, pretty good ideas and I was all for it. Then he started to make Batman this depressed guy (because he was having a breakdown because of politics lol). After that he decided just for the sake of it to split Batman from Selina. Then he made Thomas Wayne a villain, again, because King has daddy issues.
And he started to throw all his weird ideas and rantings about religion and politics in the comics. The fact that the storylines were awful didn't help either, Knightmares and City of Bane were abysmal. And now this. I get being a Tom King fan, he can write good comics. But that doesn't mean that out of pure fanboy-ism we should pretend that shitty comics are good when they're not.
Also, this dude could've just look at the previous issue where I didn't rate it that bad, I gave it a 7, above the 6.7 fan average. But he's too blinded by his rage and it's easier for him to think that we're "hating" on his idol rather than just telling it how it is.
Okay first of all, I am a Tom King fanboy, I do admit that. I like most of his work, except HiC. Being upset about his run at all is fine with me, especially if you felt betrayed by issue 50. I think a lot of people did. I did come off as a bit hostile. My bad. I'm in the wrong. I have seen large groups of people harassing Tom King and everything he does, I may have mistaken you for that. Also again nothing wrong with disagreeing with me on his Batman.
I was only drawn to this comment because of you being mad at us who enjoy it. I think I overreacted in my initial reply.
Another letdown of an issue. As was the case with the previous 2 issues, the art was the only good part. I think King jumped the shark by the wedding. He should look into writing something else since he's way past his prime on Batman. This series is proof.
I always loved the '94 Mask of the Phantasm movie. But I always felt it was best it and the Character of the Phantasm were better off having NOTHING to do with DC continuity, and this series is proof of why. It proves a lot of things, too bad none of them are positive. As I said, the only thing I can say I approve of is the art.
It's really hard to enjoy this. I usually enjoy Mann's art very much but I see he was once again horny when making this art. Happens to the best of us and I would let it slide if that was my only problem with this issue.
But it's hard to say anything good about this. I really don't get what the narrative is that King is trying to write. We have, what, 3 stories going on and I honestly can't remember anything else except the future parts. Nor do I get what is going on in them.
And I don't get what is the hook King should throw at us to keep coming back. I mean, nothing really happens here. Why should I be interested in the 4th issue now?
The only thing about this issue I really enjoyed was the idea of Joker locking himself in a safe and waiting around for Catwoman. That's an effective idea and an effective image. But dude. The dialogue throughout this issue is abysmal. I don't understand why Tom King persists on writing the Batfamily like he does. Other characters don't always talk this way. Unfortunately, they're not the protagonists. Also, holy shit some of the art is just begging for a Tumblr post decrying it. Selina's back has been broken for decades. But ultimately, while the art took me out of the story at points and distracted me (What else would distract me? The plot?), I really think the biggest problem is the three timelines thing. Last issue worked better because there was a throughline, while this issue was just... More story. It really is a shame. more
I try to be as open minded as possible, and even, or especially when I encounter something I don't like, I try to give it a fair chance, and understand why I don't like it if I still don't like it after giving it said chance. It was the case with post I Am Bane Batman series by Tom King, which I grew to dislike only more and more with every passing issue. Enter Batman/Catwoman, which made, to say the least, a very unfavourable opinion on me with its first two issues. And here I am - giving it the last chance to capture my attention and imagination, make me see something more in it, because as of now, I'm completely conscious about what I dislike about it.
All my good will was gone when Catwoman says "I became a cat. I met a bat". I shaked my head asking myself in disbelief why am I even exposing myself to this trash? But yet, I proceeded. I continued reading this comic, just to find some action in it. Yeah, that's new, isn't it? Action. Too bad it features more inarticulate meowing, growling and hissing, making me shiver in disgust and cringe, and rather comically oversexualized fight sequence, which whilst not bad, reminds me of the infamous panel from Heroes in Crisis featuring half naked Lois Lane being half naked for the sake of being half naked. 90's called, they want their porn influences back.
I'm done with this series, it's time I stop wasting any second more on it. I've seen too much already. Screw the bat. And the cat. And my life as well, because I could have read something half decent instead. more
"I'm done with this series." Sure. How many times did you say that about his Batman before you reviewed every. single. issue.
Following main continuity comics is different from reading limited self contained series, so there goes your provocation.
Tom King continues to prove he doesn't grasp Batman at all.
Just a boring comic book. I'm happy that Tom King is almost done writing any Batman book. He goes out with a the of equivalent of a silent fart in church.
Fuck Tom king
The only thing I appreciate about this number is that I stopped the abuse of flashbacks that made me headache.
The art is flawless even though the way Helena was presented in that outfit makes her look very vulgar, please it seems the woman forgot to put her the pants along with the panties and came out half dressed, it would have been better if it was just the bat on her chest and her mask. or something worse was the rear. It reminded me of those movies where they dream that they are naked at school and everyone laughs. Nothing aesthetic.
As long as the story isn't of much interest here, it felt empty. This was definitely a series that I didn't think about or read until there were two immature and intolerant little people who attacked me because I didn't like it and no one can force me to like something that is not for me, that's why I promised to give my personal and impartial criticism .
In conclusion, it was a little better than the previous numbers since the abuse of the flash back and the insistence of the song was removed, but the story still does not reach me.
As long as history isn't of much interest here, she felt hollow. Definitely this was a series that I did not think or read until there were two immature and intolerant little people who attacked me because I did not like myself and nobody can force me to like something that is not for me, therefore I promised to give my personal criticism and impartial.
In conclusion, it was a little better than the previous numbers since the abuse of the flash back and the insistence of the song was withdrawn, but the story still does not catch up with me. more
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