too slow

The book will continue, this wasn't the last issue

I mean, it's a 4 months break, it's kind of like a last issue for a while.

:)

my problem wasn't even just the characterisations but the lack of direction and godawful plot Not many comics have been so shit they've made me angry, but this is certainly one of them, even Bendis could have made a better story out of the concept

Agree, the story is all over the place. A lot of filler was put: Magneto fighting x-men and Avengers, the Kaijus. It was obvious that Magneto didn't killed Wanda since the first issue. The investigation was dumb too, Wanda is a magical user, of course, magic could be involved. So they are back on square one of the investigation, I don't think anyone even care about the murderer at this point, even Wanda is back to life. So what is the point?

I agree. Oh god that Kaiju fight was fucking dreadful, when they showed up I honestly didn't think that was part of the same issue, I thought there was some sort of printing error. Imo the murder mystery aspect it started out with was pretty good, but it just descended into utter braindead garbage, with the magneto fight and then fucking kanjis and wanda meeting her future self

Its a shame, I want to love the x-men but Ive just disliked most of what ive read post HoX/PoX, this series certainly did not help

I feel the same, I wanted to like Krakoa but it mostly disappoints

Other writers turning X of swords into a dance off event didn't help at all. I mean I liked some of hickman's x-men run, but overall it felt way too disjointed and messy for me

I thought about writing a review but really this says it all, and more succinctly.

Leave your higher moral tendency, the bad thing is that your ideas revolve around this and go to fanfiction to copy ideas. He wasn't such a bad writer, but this year I don't know what's wrong with this man. There are supposed rumors that part of the government and some companies financially support this type of thing and given the crisis, many are going this way, regardless of whether sales are lost.

He has the idea that having two people of the same sex kissing is an excuse for bad writing. And then the cameos that he makes without much sense to try to generate emotion, when there is nothing to excite there, damn somehow it was logical that Lois or WW had a protagonist. The cool thing would be for her to head to the new lake. But I think it's too much to ask.

I mean, governments love dividing people, it helps with the whole "divide and conquer" strategy, you need to demonize some people if you're going to pose as the good guys, that's how politics play out. And companies do love this nonsense because they've been infiltrated by woke idiots. But I seriously can't fault any of those for Taylor's stupidities, this is all him.

I've been watching the guy slowly losing it ever since he started writing X-23 and X-Men Red, those were the first signals that the Tom Taylor who wrote Injustice is slowly changing his writing interests. It got worse with the Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man, the with his Suicide Squad, then Injustice Year Zero and so on. At some point I realized he isn't interested anymore in good stories, just in propaganda.

And his twitter is just a nightmare, I saw him retweeting marxist pages and conspiracy theories, dude has lost the plot big time.

I get the sense that you're just hate-reading comics these days.

Well, I rated the first one pretty high so your sense is wrong.

But it's okay, you think we're " lonely straight white guys" and you think that doesn't sound racist or anything so I'm not very offended by what you think if that's your mindset.

Oh! And you will see how Taylor and her union cries when someone publishes something that she does not like or someone tells her that her work is bad. The man seems millennial at 40, which is ridiculous that he is as sensitive as an extremist of Islam. He, too, blocks all those who ask him why he set up a situation.

He just got exclusive for DC, unfortunately.

I also loved Injustice, hated DCeased, liked the first issue here but with the second I'm already not liking where this is going. I don't like the constant shade throwing at Bruce, he does it all the time. As for Supes, he totally was a douche to Bruce without any reason whatsoever other than to create tension between them. I don't like how he's treating a lot of characters here. I hope next issues will be better.

Jane Foster wielding Mjolnir had potential that got wasted in hands of Jason Aaron. I am happy that She Hulk returned to my She Hulk I liked. Lean Aesthetics I like. She looks great. She's back finally. Though I am not gonna waste my money and more importantly time on Jason Aaron book. I just came to read what people says about Anniversary edition.

Majority of fans liked JaneThor, it will even be the plot of the new movie by a Oscar winner

@maelstron: The majority of the fans didn't like JaneThor. And who's the Oscar winner? Waititi? Yeah, I can't stand him or the mockery he made of Ragnarok.

I've not polled any readers for how much they liked Jane Foster Thor but I can speak personally and thought it was a fantastic run, start to finish (aside from delmundos art near the end, that was hideous) and the people I know who read it all loved it. Small sample size, sure. If it's not your thing, okay, there are people in the world that don't listen to Tool also and that doesn't make sense to me but to each their own

Decent response, you're not wrong. I'm glad you enjoyed it. I also remember liking the first arc but then it started going downhill faster and faster. I know some people liked it but overall the reaction to it was very mixed and Aaron's childish tantrums didn't help either.

I loved Jane Thor.

Oh dude, Hank is a established wife beater. But of course you have to take it on feminists man haters. Pathetic

Yes, and that's why I compared it to the problematic "fridging" stuff. That was wrong, it was done against women and they stopped doing it. This is also wrong, but they continue with it because we can always shit on men. You're pathetic if you don't get why this is wrong.

Hazard a guess and say a super powered grandson of kal el will be a bit of a stretch for DC at this point?

Honestly I'm much more concerned about Jon's character. You can survive a butchering of the character once (Bendis) but can you survive a second one, what Taylor does to him now? I don't think so. At this point I hope they'll pull a de-aging comicbook storyline where he just reverts back to the age he would normally have without Bendis and just erase everything Taylor did to him. Just bring back the wide-eyed, Tomasi version of the character, without all of Taylor's ideological burdens.

I think after the novelty wears off this title will sputter out. It's pretty clear Bendis was told to rapidly age the character likely more for 5G plans than for Taylor's social engineering.

Well, this is a maxi-series, so there are still 7 issues, plenty of time to ruin Jon even more. Taylor will turn him into Greta Thunberg two issues from now. After that, DC will launch a one-shot with Damian trying to recapture the Super Sons magic. I think that's far gone by now.

I actually didnt like Damian at first the character grew on me. Where he became a future version of batman is when the character clicked for me.

Lol..thunberg "how dare you". Hlobal warming Jon makes no sense because his dad has access to technology that that literally fabricates environments.

"Making sense" isn't an issue for Taylor, propaganda is. And honestly it's just partially his fault. His fanbase is to blame because they accept idiotic stuff just for the sake of their cause. They don't ask for better so he doesn't try. He is capable of better writing but he knows his idiotic fanbase will accept his shit, regardless of how little it makes sense.

No question Taylor is concerned with activism here. Jon's metamorphosis into a switch hitter is indicative of that.

Taylor's pretty much checking all prog boxes with this title global warming anti 2A "refugees..wink wink" Jon's now consonant person.

I'm sure Taylor would love to work a vaccination angle that always works up the progs.

Funnily enough Superman is currently in a book with authority and it's a much better read than Taylor's hamfisted writing here. Which again makes one ask...what is Taylor's priority here?

Propaganda. Don't forget, we also have an upcoming confrontation with Lex Luthor. You just know that after the refugees propaganda (check), the LGBT propaganda (check), the climate strike propaganda (future check), burn capitalism down is going to be his next issue. This is all Taylor cares about. And he just loves to propagandize through such a powerful character as Superman, who people love.

Unfortunately this is a bastardization of the character and at some point you have to realize when something is changed beyond any recognition that it's just twisted into something else entirely. This, right here, isn't Superman. It's Tom Taylor masquerading as Superman. And I have zero interest in a moron like Taylor who believes he knows what's best for the world I live in.

Is it a maxi series I thought it was ongoing?

Did Jon stop killing trees to do his environmental propaganda to kiss the boy who came out of nowhere? I don't know, this comic has seemed so boring to me almost as if it was I'm not Starfire. Jon is character come of a soap opera of rosa de Guadalupe. The Jon's boyfriend looks a bit like the Devon Erickson.

People are easily misled by comics covers

Guys, I’m going to let you in on a little secret. Gather ‘round… You ready? STOP. BUYING. IT. If you aren’t happy on the direction of the book, bitching about it online after you already BOUGHT it solves nothing. Nobody cares what you think. Nobody cares what I think. They care what we buy. You stop buying, your LCS stops ordering, the publisher takes notice. See All-New Marvel now. Don’t fool yourselves into thinking you’re sticking it to DC by buying & bitching. Stop buying.

So succinctly Hydro if we are not talking about something you agree with then we should be silent? No thanks. The motivations of the writer are valid to discuss. And I've never bought a copy of the book so your advice is useless to me.

@Hydro-Man: If "nobody cares what we think" why are all these morons here so butthurt about it? That alone makes it worth it. I get what you're saying and you are partially right. All the same, I don't want to ignore something when I consider it wrong. And this is wrong on all levels. Superman, one of the best characters in comic history is being turned in a puppet propaganda tool by an idiotic writer.

I don't want to see that. I find it wrong and I want to be able to say it. Because in case you missed the memo we're allowed to say less and less what we don't like in the name of "tolerance", "acceptance" and PC. All the while, the people who ask us to shut up put their fists in other people's mouths, sometimes even literally. So yeah, I feel like we shouldn't cave in to this. Again, I get your point, sales are what matter most but sometimes it's about more than that.

@Ming I don’t like the new direction just as you don’t . All I’m saying is the only way to affect change is to not buy the book. If you’re not buying the book (like you say), nothing I wrote should rile you up. We agree. @Merlyn Yes, you can get butthurt responses from people by posting negative reviews of the book. If that’s your goal, keep on trucking. If you want change… stop buying it. Remember how All-New Marvel Now ended? Retailers screaming at the publisher? That’s how we win.

Merlyn, I’m not at all against you speaking out. You’re right. People are chomping at the bit to call you all kinds of “-ist” for not thinking like they do. Speak your mind. But you’ll be better if you can do that without supporting something that makes you upset. When I told my LCS the only DC book I wanted this week was Batman, instead of asking why I was down to one book, he said “ok.” Cuz he knows what’s happening. I feel worse for him than anyone but hopefully things turn around.

I get what you're saying Hydro. And yes sales talk but lately DC has been ignoring poor sales on some titles too.

I'd argue that while, yes, the sales have been a huge factor and ultimately the main factor in Marvel dropping that initiative, the online backlash was a big factor too. People were literally laughing at Marvel and making fun of them online and that hurt the brand. So yes, not buying these books is a good step towards what we both want. Laughing at them for their stupidity is another one. I'm probably going to drop this book very soon so I'll heed your advice soon enough, but not just yet.

Glad we are in closer agreement but sad that we’re each at this point over something that once meant so much to us. Oh well… If New 52 or All-New Marvel Now taught me anything, it’s that I can cut them off if I need to. While they wait for that new base of Twitter likes to translate into sales (that never will), I’ll just dive into my archive of library editions.

I think theres value to what you said with sales Hydro although DC is very stubborn with some titles that are poor sellers. Ridley's idea of batman for example is the only bat title that falls out of the top 50 yet they're keeping it around. Obviously moving the character with all the Fox family to New Yirk with #6 is DC blinked and didn't scrap top seller BruceBatman which I'm sure was the original plan.

Call me crazy but I didn't have everything on New52 like I did with All-New All-Different. There were some good titles, too.

And what makes you suppose that I am buying this thing? and immediately the gag law. Everyone has the right to have an opinion, those who like it, good for them and welcome their reasons why they like it and those of us who don't like this, why shut up? Long live freedom of expression for everyone.

And I also agree with Merlyn, I don't know what happened, the new 52 had better comics. Why not leave something for everyone's taste without snatching good comics from us? They just infantilized everything and are giving more importance to the color of the skin or the sexuality of the characters.

@Ming Just give it time. It’s an odd sales cycle: publisher > distributor > end-buyer. End-buyer response will catch up to them eventually. Speculators will be all over Son of Kal-El #5 so it’s a bad example. This issue notwithstanding, outside of Batman, you see anybody clamoring for DC at your LCS? Christ, I’m seeing more copies of Moon Knight than just about every DC book outside of Batman.

@Merlyn I gave New52 a shot. I give a lot of things a shot! Even this title, despite the writing being on the wall early on. Can’t say I look back fondly on New52. I feel like for most of it, my pull list was down to Batman and Justice League.

Hey, Moon Knight is pretty good. I'm no fan of Jed MacKay but I can admit that's a good book. Yeah, Batman was good, JL was good, I also liked RHATO, Red Lanterns, Talon, smaller series. Most of the big main series were bad, you're right. But I still think New52 was better than what DC is doing right now.

Lol Hey, I’m not crapping on Moon Knight. Just pointing out Moon Knight is… Moon Knight. A few years (or even months) back, would you expect there to be a higher demand for Moon Knight than most of DC’s core characters? Reminds me of when Rebirth launched and there was greater interest in Green Arrow than core Marvel characters.

Hydro I just read the last issue of son of kal el only sold 35K and action even less. I think I owe you an apology in a year this stupidity of DCs is likely to be at an end.

Well, Action selling less is pretty concerning to me. Action is much better. I get that this issue probably sold well because of the obvious speculators, but still, the fact that it sold better then Action might mean that DC will interpret the situation as in that the current direction, with Jon Kent Superman, is a good one. That doesn't sound like very good news to me.

Connor Kent is a clone, so he is obviously not being counted as a genuine half breed. But then again this entire review is pure copium so why expect actual logic? At least your Eternals review was good

But he is a half breed, it doesn't matter how he was conceived, so Jon is not the first of his kind. No, this entire reviews makes sense, you're just butthurt about it. Yes, I like Eternals, it's a very good comic. I'd like for this one to be like that but unfortunately Tom Taylor has other interests here rather than good storytelling.

It does matter how he is conceived. Hes not a natural birth or a natural living thing, hes artificial. This is so obvious. I mean I knew what you were gonna rate this book before it even came out, that doesnt surprise me but at least use some logic

It wasn't talked at all about that. The phrase was "you are the first of your kind". That's just not true, it just isn't no matter how desperate you are to defend Taylor. You're the one who rejects logic in a pathetic attempt to defend a writer you like. Yeah, I'm going to rate shitty books that don't make sense pretty low. Expect that trend to continue.

You quoting it makes your point even weaker. You MIGHT have something if he said you're the first half breed. But his "kind" is a natural born, human/kryptonian hybrid. And he's the first. This aint even defense of Taylor, its basic reading ability.he is the first time a human and a kryptonian bore a child. Your hate boner for Taylor determines the rating more than actual quality. Like I said, you are predictable at least, but you're known for these BS "criticisms" and this is no exception.

Why does his "kind" need to be a natural born? Since when did you invent this rule? Are you so desperate to defend Taylor that you just invent stuff? I'm not the only one pointing this out, btw. I've seen this on several other comic sites. So a lot of people have seen this but I guess they're not all pathetic fanboys like you. I've already rated the comic badly before I added that because it was a shitty comic so this has nothing to do with that.

The fact that you and other losers here who can't take the fact that other people don't like what you like screech like crazies doesn't make the criticism wrong. You just can't deal with it. Learn to. I'm not about to make it any easier for any of you, you can be sure of that.

Comic books are full of clones who have had families, children etc. Conner is no exception to that.

You typed a lot to try and make sense of a nonsensical argument. No one said it "needed" to he naturak born but thats what he is, and he is the first of that kind. This literally isn't hard my guy. Any way you slice it. He is the first of his kind. His kind is a being born of a kryptionian and human. Not in a test tube. Born. Anyone else saying this nonsense is wrong too. Just like how Damian is the son of batman. Because he's his bio son.

But the boyfriend didn't specify about "born", that's your obsession you keep coming up with because you're desperately trying to pull at something that isn't there just to defend Taylor. He isn't the first of his kind.

"There aren't a lot of half-kryptonian, half-human people running around", "You're the first one. You're the only one". I just literally quoted the book. Not a single mention about him being born or not, it's just about being half-human, half-kryptonian. Stop embarrasing yourself to defend Taylor. He just didn't do his homework and winged it. It's not up to you to clean up his mess.

"No one said he needed to be natural born" YOU JUST DID, repeatedely so. Dude, you're losing it, get a grip. :))

"Hes not a natural birth or a natural living thing" Your quote. Are you ok, seriously? You don't need to WIN here, I admitted when I was wrong on that Black Manta issue, you can admit too. I won't take it in your face or something. Just stop.

Wow you're still trying. This is sad dude. You keep coming back and adding more because you are realizing how bad of a point this is. Hes the first of his kind. Its not hard. If I say Damian is the first son of Batman, I am not wrong to say that because he IS the first. If you want to be pedantic you can say Dick is the first but dick isnt his real son. It's the same with this.

Not to mention that Connor is currently dead/in another universe if you're reading Suicide Squad, there are actually 2 Connors and both of them aren't there so it tracks. This isnt tom messing up or me, its you.

I don't know if you really are this idiotic or you just don't want to admit you botched this one badly. For your sake, I hope it's the second. You've contradicted yourself numerous times and I just proved it to you. I can't do any more than that, when I'm proving you with YOUR words AND with the LITERAL QUOTES and you still ignore it, you're either very stupid or just insane.

No, Conner isn't dead. That's Match. Conner is alive, he's with Young Justice. He JUST appeared in that book. Get your shit together and stop embarrassing yourself. This just proves you have NO IDEA what you're talking about and just keep adding more shit to the wall in your desperation to defend Taylor and your poor reasoning.

Conner is the FIRST of his kind because he's the FIRST being with half-human, half-kryptonian. Literally what the pink-haired dude was talking about. Didn't talk about being born AND YOU EVEN ADMITTED THIS. Just fucking say, "I was wrong, whatever", stop being such a baby. :)))

Those quotes dont even contradict. He doesn't have to be a natural born to he the first of his kind, because Connor is a clone. Clones are never counted as genuine genetic samples in biology if a real one presents itself. However, the statement would still be correct because he is still the first of his kind in regards to his birth. This isnt hard my guy.

Also, Match was originally shown as another Connor but its revealed he's a clone and there are many like him which lends itself even more to what I'm saying. I can admit I haven't read young justice in ages and zi thought they were in another dimension or something. Either way my point still stands. Tom isn't wrong to call Jon the first of his kind any way you slice it. Clones don't count period. It seems you aren't willing to be convinced of this for some reason.

Connor is a copy, not the original. Just like a print of art or a document reproduction wouldn't count as an original, Connor doesn't either because he's a copy. Hes literally not the first anything because his genes are literally just copies of the original. I really don't know what else to say to make this clear

Clones don't count lol? Have you been reading comics since yesterday? Taylor botched this one, stop this. And Conner isn't a clone like Match is, your logic here is just wrong. Match is a clone of Superboy, Conner isn't a clone of anyone else before him. He's not a copy, a copy of whom? He's a combination between Clark and Lex, he isn't a copy of anything, why do you insist in this stupidity? You do realize that in your desperation you are just proving me right even more?

His DNA is not original. Hes a combination of genes copied directly from Lex, and genes copied directly from Superman. Hes a copy. Match is a copy of him and there are many others. Like prints on a press run. None of them are original. It seems you are adamant about not admitting you're wrong on this so I see no point in continuing. I dont wanna go in circles here.

Dude, a copy means you've replicated something. Conner ISN'T a copy, he's a COMBINATION of Clark and Lex. Search the dictionary for what "copy" means. Match is a copy, yes, he's Conner's copy. Conner is no one's copy. Ergo, he is the first half-human, half-kryptonian, not Jon. I am not wrong so yeah, I'm not going to admit I'm wrong when I'm not. You know when I was wrong on Black Manta I admitted as much. Seems like you're not man enough to do the same. No surprise there, honestly.

Fuck this propoganda and fuck DC

I'm pretty excited for this book so it's a bummer to hear some of the criticisms you have. How'd you get your hands on an early copy, if you don't mind me asking?

Through the DC Universe Infinite app.

Cool! Thanks! I didn't think it was out until November but maybe that's just the print version

Possibly.

why do you talk like we read the comic before voting? LOL

Why do you think?

"I can't believe the fans voted for this one."

Tim Seeley has a long history of being a terrible writer, especially when it comes to the Robins. So... I can't believe the fans voted for this one.

Seeley has written some very good comics in the past, and the disparity between the real Anarky and the terrorists here is intentional. https://twitter.com/HackinTimSeeley/status/1460794140065734663?s=20 It's not uncommon for these QAnon-types to misunderstand and misappropriate political ideologies. Just look at Merlyn.

I've read plenty of his work and holy shit, it isn't good. And yeah, I know it's not uncommon, I said as much. I just don't trust Seeley and, since I'm no fan, I'm also not following him on twitter. I'm glad it's intentional. Doesn't change my review here, because I didn't rate it on this one part of the comic. I rated it for its very poor writing.