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This was garbage, marvel sucks
The past and the present collide in this oversized and monumental 25th issue! Your heart isn't ready for this one.
Rated T
With only one chapter remaining in this pivotal story, Amazing Spider-Man #25 does an excellent job of reframing the story and making it clear why these characters can never go home again. Read Full Review
Amazing Spider-Man #25 tells Mary Jane's side of the story after she was separated from Peter on an alternate Earth. Presented almost entirely as a montage-filled flashback, the bits of information we get only clarify what we already know. If you're looking to be shocked and awed, you'll have to wait until the next issue. Read Full Review
It's not a bad issue, but it does have some major flaws. I just wish it could have stuck the landing. Read Full Review
Break out the tissues if you're a fan of Mary Jane and Peter Parker being together, as Amazing Spider-Man #25 makes it abundantly clear they're finished with each other, at least for now. This issue does the work to show how people can grow apart with distance and time between them, but it also handles certain elements in a clunky way. The villain is not very interesting and acts like a cliched villain who is evil simply because, making the story feel trite and boring. The adopted children are also half-baked. Still, if we're going to embark on a new era for Spider-Man, this is a good place to start if you're interested in something new and bold. Read Full Review
Andrews and Romita Jr deliver lively and impressive art in a story that otherwise would have been unreadable without it. Read Full Review
The Amazing Spider-Man#25isn't offensive because of its story decisions, but because of how plain and boring it is. The Spidey team has nothing to say with this story, leaving it as just a poorly paced history lesson to explain why the team wanted to circumvent the previous status quo to tell the same old stories we've been seeing for years. Read Full Review
This was really, really good. I don't know what people are smoking. The art is top notch. Some of the best this entire run has seen. To start off, Mary Jane didn't betray or cuck Peter. We don't even know by the end of this whether or not MJ and Paul are "together". They bonded. Over 4 years. Fighting and surviving and raising children. It's all justified. I'm not saying that MJ should just bang whatever guy falls into her lap after Peter but despite Peter's persistence in trying to get back to her, he can't slow time. She understandably thought she was stuck. But that doesn't mean even at the end that she doesn't still love Peter.
The best part about this issue isn't even the explanation (for the most part) about MJ and Paul's relatio more
Another case of people going insane over the fact that Peter and Mary Jane aren't together. While the villain here isn't that interesting to me, the rest of this book is cool. Seeing Mary Jane and Paul's time together as nice, which is something I probably think because I don't immediately hate Paul. MJ spent like four years in this dimension unsure of whether or not she would ever return home again, so it's completely understandable that the two of them got together, especially after they found the two kids and took them in. As for everything after we're caught up to speed, I think it was done well. Peter's confrontation with the Fantastic Four and Captain America shows how sour of a note things were left on before Issue 1 of this run, and more
I think most of what I wanted to say about the state of things regarding ASM, I said with the last issue review. I'll just give some general scattershot thoughts about this one: Firstly, the art by Kaare Andrews is great. I'm glad to see that they will be involved with future issues. When Romita comes back at the end, it's not bad but I was more distracted by the reuse of multiple pages from issue 24. I don't think that was necessary at all, one or two would've been fine to get the point across that this is where everything converges. It's like they were short a few pages and just added more from 24 to fill the gap. Not a fan of that.
Secondly, the story: Nothing here is that surprising. I think the kids being a Rabin plot rathe more
Interesting issue. A lot of theories were out to rest and a lot of new ones were raised. We were shown cherry picked scenes that sell a narrative but not the only narrative and the very presence of the kids makes it obvious this story has more reveals to it than we think..
I will confess I read the scene at the bed as him being castrated or something, but again, it is deliberately vague as to not give things away. They seem to be trying to say they have not actually consumated a relationship, but also that they have to stay together because they both know something.
I understood everything Peter did here; basicslly. I liked that sur was the one to break things up. I totally get why he's so piszed off in this run now. H more
Let me lead with an observation I'm surprised hasn't been posted here yet: This premise turns out to be a retread of the Dimension Z monkeywrench Remender threw into his Captain America run. It's faster and shallower, and being imitative makes it even more disappointing.
The final revelations are utterly predictable, but I rather like the storytelling. The extra length gives an appropriate weight to MJ's long exile. I think Kaare Andrews did a formidable job on the art. There's a distinct effort made to align with JRJR (mainly in character proportions), but also an impressive amount of stylistic variation to emphasize the passage of time.
The explanation for MJ's kids is cowardly, but again, predictable if you're enoug more
I liked Rainbow Rowell's tribute to Omaha in the backup story, since I used to live there.
I believe none of y'all that have been complaining have read the issues when they were married, so stop fucking complaining like it's the end of the world, is isn't.
I surprisingly like the reason why Mary Jane had moved on. I just don't understand why it's needed and I could care less about the villain.
This is a step up from the previous issue, and we get some answers to questions we’ve been asking for a while. Some great art from Andrews and Romita Jr., and Peter’s actions feel more appropriate and I was able to sympathize with him this time. The emotion worked for me, and I don’t hate Paul like a lot of people seem to. Still, Rabin is pretty uninteresting, and the whole symbols thing didn’t really work for me. This also has an extra story to celebrate 25 issues of this run, but a celebration does not feel earned at all.
...the second story was actually pretty funny. I did like it quite a bit but we're all here to trash the main story!
The lengths Marvel will go to...to...keep PP from MJ? OK, whatever.
But Peter behaving like a complete man baby and needing to punch other superheroes even *after* MJ is safe? This is just frustrating silliness from the editorial team. Apparently, having Peter act a little adult is also a big no.
I believe there is still a lot of storytelling potential for Spider-Man, but Marvel insists that we the readers do not deserve better, and also they need to remind us that things cannot get better by giving us this crap.
IDK why I still read this...
I must admit, I don't see the hate for this issue. Another "passable" one, that you can read. I didn't really feel anything for this issue. This 6-part storyline has felt very messy, oddly paced, but I hoped it would get better. Now it's just... meh.
There isn't anything really here for me to grab. Art was fine I suppose. MJ's backstory was... fine I suppose? Some twist with the kids, but otherwise the plot is very straight-forward and doesn't have any twists or interesting stuff to talk about.
Biggest problem here is the lack of good writing for the Scribbled Man Rabin. He was much more enjoyable and memorable in his BND appearance than he is now. I don't feel anything when I see him, he is not threatening, or particu more
It's a very lackluster story where all the beats are recycled from the time gap where the hero can't save the heroine and grew apart and blah blah and then add a very mediocre villain acting like a 50s idea of what a cliched bad guy would be. There is nothing here that inspires or infuses a hint of suspense of hope in building proper characters. A year wasted on the dumbest premise. Zeb Wells and the editors dropped the ball just like on Spencer's run. I don't have hope for ASM ever recovering and this title will continue to sell and top the charts riding on the 60 year old history of cool Thwips and slogans "With great power..." that are both celebrated yet are the main hinderance to its advancement. I will finish the arc then it's sayonar more
My problem with this issue, and this entire run, hasn’t been the separation of MJ and Peter, it’s the circumstances around it. The status quo prior to this was completely disregarded and we just jumped into these new events. This seems more to me like Marvel wanting to sell books out of shock value and Wells wanting to force Felicia/Peter rather than telling a good story.
MJ, one of the most well known characters in Marvel, was paired up with a random guy we’ve never heard of. Even after this it seems more from circumstance and going through a terrible 4 years than growing together. It’s disrespectful to MJ. I saw another review that said if Paul/MJ have a trauma based relationship, by that logic Peter/MJ should’ve bee more
Since when was issue #25 of any series a "Landmark issue?" Soon Marvel will be celebrating issue #5.
It isn't terrible but it isn't very good either. A very average 5 out of 10 and that's mostly for the art. Nothing much happens in this hyped-up and oversized issue. We learn where the kids came from. And that's about all. Disappointing.
I enjoyed the art, especially Kaare Andrews's pages. He draws the first part of the story which is set in the alternate New York where MJ is trapped with Paul. Andrews's art is refreshing. It's vibrant and suits the story well. He draws MJ looking like a shapely woman, obviously remembering that she is a supermodel. Some artists seem to have forgotten this.
John Romita Jr. d more
This could have been an OK issue if I cared even a little bit about Paul and Rabin, but they're both really just ciphers to make the plot go where it needs to, and the plot isn't interesting or meaningful enough to bear the weight alone. It's not a bad explanation of where MJ's new family came from, but it's not a terribly involving one either
in all complete brutal honesty, its not bad. but its not good either. This comic book is just plain old okay.
art was inconsistent, and I do like how we see Mary Jane and Paul grow closer together. Kaare Andrews is a great artist, I wish that person was doing the run. I get why Peter Parker is lashing out, but it still doesnt change the fact that Fantastic Four was the one acting out of character to Peter Parker in the first place.
It's honestly very sad that I'm only excited for this book not because of Spider-Man and the "writing" but because it's funny seeing the huge backlash the fans have. This isnt how you should market or write a comic run. You should make people anticipate the next issue because of the good sto more
I'm not sure what this was supposed to be. Though I collected MJ and Black Cat, I was never on board with MJ's powers. The explanation here doesn't make it any better. It actually makes it more stupid and unbelievable. I understand what everyone has been saying about this run and I agree completely, the writer is taking too many liberties with the source material and not giving the readers anything to hold on to. Let's see what happens next issue. The variant cover was nice.
I've defended this run so I thought I'd better give my opinion on this 'most important story'...
I thought it was average at best with the art bringing up the score to that.
Disappointing!
Marvel, as I keep preaching, have a problem and one that is getting worse. The 'Charlie Brown approach' is not working(!!) and does not work for Marvel characters. You can't ignore time and certain events and stories - that have actually occurred in the comics - and then hope that new events and situations are taken seriously.
I won't bore you but Marvel needs to 'reset'. I have suggested to them how this could be done without negating 50 years of continuity but would the readers accept that - for example - issue 181 of The Hulk isn't more
I always wondered why she dumped Peter for Paul, and it was because he was LITERALLY THE LAST MAN ON EARTH! Though I think even though she still truly loves Peter, l think that she is staying with him more out necessity than love do to those kids. Plus, I don't think she told him the whole truth in order to protect him. Maybe this is all an act as they have never been seen kissing throughout the whole run so far. Only hugging, calling each other cute names and hugging. But we'll learn more about that next issue. But still this book leaves more questions then answers, I hate this Mystery Box style of writing that Zeb Well has adapted. Say what you want about the Nick Spencer Run, he actually dropped hint on who the BBEG like in manga. But he more
I can give two things to this issue. It has nice art and the backup story was cute.
But the main story is poorly paced and jumps around a lot, I couldn't care less about Paul, the kids and that villain whose name I have already forgotten. There is no chemistry between MJ and Paul. Forcing her into a relationship with a plank of wood just to get a reaction from angry fanboys feels very insulting to her character.
This arc was nothing more than outrage bait which is creatively bankrupt. I think even Wells doesn't want to write it because the story is so bare bones and thin, it's barely a proper arc.
No one seems to have noticed when Paul is in the hospital they cant find any record of him existing. Certainly a big hint pPaul will be gone imminently.
Art is dope. History is simply awful.
Summary: MJ never fucks Paul — they find their kids in Dimension Goofy and adopt them. Then Spidey rescues them but MJ leaves him cuz too much time went by. And the FF and Cap are still pissed at Spidey for stealing the shit he used to rescue MJ.
Lol Imagine pitching this to an editor and getting the gig to write Spider-Man.
Ok, I admit, not as bad as I thought. Art's fine, action was ok, pacing was decent. Not the best anniversary issue (far far cry from ASM 500), not the worst. Still no where near where I think the book needs to be. MJ having powers seems off, MJ forsaking Peter is what kills it all for me. The time dilation is inconsistent with the time that passed while Peter was gone from new york. Further, its a stupid and lazy plot device to do what Marvel wants to do and keep Peter and MJ seperate. Its a slap in fan's face.
The next issue will determine whether I continue with the series or not. The obvious implication is MJ's death, but that may be a red herring like the kids....but I don't have high hopes. Either way, till they put MJ and more
Boy do I just love being trolled.
Sad to see what's happening to this character. Controversial series for the dumbest reasons.
Heeblebeebee
Stop ruining MJ’s character it’s not that hard to do better 🤦♂️
This is like reading an NTR doujin without the smut.
Also a reminder that Bruno Mael, Spin-0-sa, AmbrosE, and AllWallace are the same person.
No. And I mean regardless of if you like the direction or not, this just felt like a Zeb further pumps up his self insert Paul. The Spider-team want to make sure you know they don't care about this book or Peter. The writing is weak, the art is sloppy and if I produced work of this quality I would have been fired long ago. I feel like at this point, I have lost all my anger at this run and just apathy now. I just dont care. They want to write Peter as a miserable person who will only be harmed? Sure. Ok. You do you.
I hate how today's Marvel thinks of spider-man. Online coming back when the corrent editorial is out
I genuinely cannot fathom the level of awful decisions made for the whole of Zeb Wells' ASM run. This entire series of events can only exist if the characters are written entirely different from how they are characterized. MJ, even after years alone with someone else, would not give up on Peter. Peter may be emotional but he is still a genius, he wouldn't attack his friends and risk his best chance to save his should-be wife, just because they need to verify his identity. He definitely wouldn't work with the man that killed his first love just because he says "I'm not evil anymore I swear". 10,000 characters is both not enough and too much to write a review because I could say so much more about it and how much I genuinely hate every little more
Marvel is trolling all of us
It's happened, in the end. Zeb Wells managed to completely throw me off my favourite superhero's comic book. It's not even right to rate this thing, as misconceived as it is. This is not a story: this is just a rage bait for the fans so they'll talk about it and Marvel gets free promotion. Nothing makes sense, everything just goes the way this pathetic writer chose to because he thinks he's so smart he can piss on beloved characters and do whatever the hell he wants. I don't even know if I'll keep reading it. This looks just like the kind of garbage that will be retconned in a couple of years.
One of the most misogynistic comics in recent years, the writers literally destroy one of the main female characters in the history of spiderman to push forward his relationship with another woman, the terrible attitude towards characters with such a rich history, it's just disgusting,the only thing that can be praised is the work of artists,the drawing is very good
Worst Spider-Man Run Ever. It would have been better to have stayed with Nick Spencer.
I don't know how to feel about this issue and I think that's how I am supposed to feel. It feels like the end. That's the moment we as a fandom should most definitely move on and leave what once was, what once was great in the past. Pete tried everything and gave his all, but sometimes destiny wins. I feel like that reflects the fandom and in a way, the whole issue is structured to put you in Pete's mind space and the way he feels.
It's sad in the way autumn is sad, It's natural, it's silent, you can't escape it, and it's cold and moving slowly, but seemingly tirelessly. It's a feeling that haunts the whole issue. Weirdly enough it captures what a real breakup actually is.
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