i love your youtube channel and podcast! Our opinions never match haha

I'm hoping you don't put this over Grell, O'Neil, the 2001 run or even Lemire's New 52 run

I don't think it's going to be over Grell, O'Neil, or Lemire New 52 Run. But I think I should have reworded it as it's my definitive 2020s Green Arrow run. Chris Condon's run was cut too short and had only 13 issues for it to have a lasting impact. For me, the best Green Arrow runs are: Grell, 2001, New 52, O'Neil, this, Ben Percy, and Joshua Williamson's run.

Yeah I got blocked too. Which is weird.

If you want to talk about it more, just go to the discord linked on my profile.

Gabe the ball bag.

keep crying!

I love it

I think you are right - no critical reviews and your one user review is a shame for a character that should be a must read each month

It’s too bad because there are some great ideas in this storyline. Wally splitting himself to fight a battle is a good idea. But there are some real problems with it as well.

Hal’s a fictional character bro. He can’t fuck you. He’ll never read all your reviews white knighting for him. It’s super cringe.

Smithd33 - super cringe that you show up to a comic review site and bash someone for caring about a comic book character as well as just being a total dick!

Nah Jim. Go look at his reviews. He’s worse than a geek dad giving everything 10’s. And I didn’t show up. I been here. GFC(beep boop) and all.

So I can't write a review about a character I liked being mistreated? Also you misgendered me. Fxxk off freak.

i reviewed this issue earlier today and reading your review, I believe we might have had a mind meld

Great art dragged down my mid stories.

what a joke

you are a piece of shit

shut up grandpa, you like ethan van sciver bro

Yeah, and I have the Grandpa level disposable income to ensure that the books I like keep getting made while the ones you like get canceled. Stay mad.

@Superman Fan, is that the best you have to offer? I shut you down in previous conversations and all you have now is swearing...Try critical thinking and adding substance to your own reviews then the 2 second click of 10! Then come back and comment.

@Jim you read horrible books and troll legit reviewers. Who is the joke here?

"Yeah, and I have the Grandpa level disposable income to ensure that the books I like keep getting made while the ones you like get canceled." You just admitted that you don't pay for the comics you read. You have almost 500 reviews with an average rating of 2.6, so these obviously aren't the "books you like keep getting made". So you either don't actually read any of the comics you review or you get them for free online.

@Phantom Yeah, I do have free access to a lot of physical books without having illegally download them, but if that's what you assume people do because that is what you do then that's really telling of you and not me. Logic isn't your strong point. Anyways, maybe one day when you reach a level of reviewing you'll be able to get free stuff too through connections and these things call friends within the industry. I doubt it though. Stay angry, it seems to be all you have going for you.

You could have just said you got them from the library but you overshot by telling a needlessly convoluted lie about having friends in the industry and "connections" from "reaching a level of reviewing" (absolutely hilarious; you write user review bombs on ComicBookRoundup) that I could only DREAM of. This is going to be a great moment for anyone else in the future that sees one of your weird 1 star reviews and looks through your history to find this bizarre bragging attempt.

I don't know which I find more amusing, the fact that you accuse me of being dishonest or the fact that you believe that a modern library would carry current issues of comic books. As for you or anyone else in the future, I really don't care what you think. I'm sure my 1 star reviews do seem "weird" to you as they do require a minimum level of IQ level. I write reviews on here for free because I enjoy doing so AND I can do so without having to edit myself. As for you, you can stay mad.

No genius, that library comment was me saying that if you are going to lie at least make it believable. Saying that your reviews on here have "reached a level of reviewing" that has gotten you a steady flow of free comics from "friends in the industry" is an absurd lie. It's a lie a child would tell. You could have just said you got them from the library or just said NOTHING but you got super defensive about it instead. Whatever dude, keep just 1 starring everything. You called YOURSELF out

Reading isn't your stong point is it? I never said that I get promo stuff for this site review, but I do get "not for resale" and copies of books sent to me from friends I've made. Now, try to imagine why I would get defensive after beening accused of stealing comics...Anyway, you made it clear who you are, sadly we have to be in the same collecting community. Seek help.

so the comic book roundup should censor who does reviews... odd idea there. But no mention that all the critic reviews are from reviewers who have averaged between an 8.3 to a 9.4/10 after hundreds or even thousands of reviews - most people have bailed on this site because it's shills handing out perfect scores for just about everything. Go back 10 years and you wouldn't even notice Gabe's scores because the critics were actually a tiny bit critical.

Also, anyone who wants to see how much of a troll you are just needs to check out your profile where you've reviewed six issues and given four 1/10s - but you're mad at Gabe for low scores🤡 also it's hilarious that you copy and pasted this hate message on other books because you're lazy as well as being a hypocritical POS

Isn't this the guy who had a mental breakdown on Twitter over Captain America killing Nazis?

I trust gabe more than any person here as a reviewer. The rest give 10’s to everything as long as they keep getting their review copies. You may not agree with him. Maybe you think he’s sus. But at least he’s honest.

@braveandthebold and? Plenty of people, including past creators, have gone on record saying Cap regrets taking any life no matter how vile they are! In canon, Cap has said he regretted letting his anger take him over when he punched H*tler! And spoiler - not liking an issue because you think the character is written poorly isn't having mental breakdown! You don't deserve to have that Grant Morrison pic!

Also it's pretty obvious you are just an opticrage burner account

Ah yes, everyone who disagrees with you must be a burner account. The paranoia is setting in hard, huh? Can't take any criticism about poor reading comprehension, so everyone must be an enemy.

Going 3 years between reviews pretty much says yeah. You’re sus.

And Jimbo here hasn't used his account since 2023.

Yea- I have over 3000 critic reviews that are carried on this site from the website and podcast I have run for over ten years, but yes, keep reaching! And the funny thing is you are talking about reading comprehension when I never said anything about liking or disliking the issue, or even if I read it or not! Not hiding who I am "brave and the bold grant Morrison" https://comicbookroundup.com/comic-books/reviewer/jim-werner

Paranoia about what? I think you might be self projecting here! I said that an Aggregate review site shouldn't censor whose reviews are included and you came in with the nonsense.

You're a riot. I made fun of Gabe's poor reading comprehension, and you throw a hissy fit. Not really beating the allegations here, Jimbo. Especially not with those hilarious reviews. Thanks for that, I had a good laugh.

Brave and the Bald isn't anyone's alt. Seems Gabe's paranoia is rubbing off on James.

Thanks psychomoron! The best thing about all this is this site is pretty much dead because of the shill critics reviews and the idiotic user reviews anyway - nobody cares about anything anyone says here except you losers who can't stop thinking about Gabe 24/7. Plus I'm saying all 3 of you are 100% the same person.

... I think you've interacted with 2/3 of us over on my discord server at the same time. So there's that. I promise I don't give Gabe much thought, though I am sorry your friend is an out of touch moron.

the only name I remember is yours, but it just amazes me the amount of toxic hate that this site's "user review" section becomes when someone writes a review that the usual suspects don't like - Don't get your panties up in a bunch over the aggregate score of a book, nobody cares about the site anymore! The site drives zero traffic, so the theory that Gabe writes reviews for that is ridiculous! There's hardly any sites left that even bother to review stuff

Gabe's reviews are not quality criticism. So much of it is focused on what Gabe would rather see than what is presented to him. That's not criticizing a comic on its own merits, it's akin to the lowest level of social media comics discourse. I think Gabe's biggest issue is he's not good at what he does, and it's wild to have you have you act as though he's a consummate professional lol.

At the end of the day the only difference between the reviews on your site and the ones in the user section here is a no doubt begrudged insistence on word count.

Psaycmorean is right, Gabe is kind of incompetent, and a bit of a baby when it comes down to it. And "Jim" - if he's not a burner account - just sounds like an angry troll.

i share those sentiments. Gabe can give a 2 to Uncanny X-Force for all I care, it's just that his reviews are shallow. I think that if incorporate more antithesis into his writing it would end up stronger. Like here he says that the comics is different for the sake of being different, without providing any good reasons, when so many reviewers actually found meaning behind the choices made here. For me that's why it comes out as just hating, because he does not acknowledge that others are feeling

if he actually did it and still defended his opinions, I think that his reviews would be way more respectable. Also every time i read a review of his, it seems that it comes with a preconceived notion of what the comics should and it's a really rigid one, and i mean, if you are with a mindset like this, ofc you would hate most of the things that you read and ofc that it would seem like straight up hate. At this point, personally, I don't get much of his review.

Dude gave Hawkgirl a 9 and galaxy a 10 and wants to talk incompetent. Ok.

@orbisstelassis burner account or angry troll? you can look ne up - i have thousands of critic reviews here, have DC/Marvel podcasts with over 500 episodes each (dc comics pod has been rated #1 DC Comics podcast for 6 straight years by feedspot) Just type "weird science dc comics" and you can find me (and I'm sure you haters will make fun of all that - you're all pretty much just hypocritical toxic fans who think you're "positive" for defending books but do it in the worst possible way!)

@criminology the reviews are just his opinion; not based on other reviewers. His reviews (marvel especially) are written before the book is released and there is no way to know others' thoughts on it, but still, other reviewers explain themselves in their reviews. I own the DC & Marvel sites Gabe reviews on and rarely agree with him - but it's his opinion and this thread started with the call for Gabe to be censored which is BS IMO! Like anything of the sort, you don't like his reviews (1/2)

just ignore them! There are plenty of sites and reviewers that never go below an 8 (which has more to do with keeping review copies than being honest), so go and read those. I gave up doing written reviews because of stuff like this - i prefer reviewing comics on podcasts with multiple people to get more of a varied discussion (kind of like what you said earlier). BTW, I do find positive reviews are rarely called out for lack of substance just because they are positive. (2/2)

@Weird Science Jim - This site has definitely taken a serious nosedive, as has the comic industry in general. Most books average about $5 per issue, and read in about 15 minutes. But I honestly doubt most of the users on this site are even bothering to buy their comics. Probably just reading them online. ...Anyway! Yeah, this site has become riddled with toxic folks who readily attack anyone that doesn't agree with them. Silly drama over cartoon books.

Yep, it's bait. They knew no one was interested in this dude's character, so they force fed it down Hawkgirl fans' throats. The art is indeed stunning. Just as good as I remember it from JL:Dark.

Its funny when one realizes Hawkman was omitted from this book to facilitate Galaxy.

Hawkgirl can have a comic that doesn’t involve Hawkman, it’s just obvious that this series is an disguised comic about Galaxy with Hawkgirl put in the front so Axelrod can trick readers into thinking they’re reading a Hawkgirl book. The other supporting characters are shallow; that lesbian girl from college and Galaxy’s girlfriend.. really that’s the best we can do for Hawkgirl’s own cast? The editors must’ve been asleep during the editing process of this book.

@gorr Hawkman and Hawkwoman were supposedly omitted to not confuse newer readers

Hal’s mother is jewish - he was raised in an interfaith household and there have been many times when DC recognized his Jewish heritage. Here is one - https://static1.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/Green-Lantern-Hal-Jordan-has-a-Jewish-mother.png?q=50&fit=crop&dpr=1.5

This is that Tom King story right? From Darkseid War. But yeah, read the whole silver age stuff + Johns run, don't remember this being mentioned

it was hinted at since Silver Age - his mom is jewish, which technically jewish

I haven't read this issue so I don't have a horse in this race, but I'm having a grand old time reading all of these comments, and I'd just like to point out the irony in you calling other people unintelligent and misspelling a three letter word in the same sentence.

Really? Your argument is "you made a spelling error"? In 2023? Weaaaaaak.

Typical user reviewer who is more concerned with someone else's review than anything else. Over 300 reviews and you have an average score of 9 out of 10? What was so wrong with Hawkgirl #1 that you considered it so below average?

It's not an argument, merely an observation! I just found it amusing that you'd comment on other people's intelligence level and talk about them looking silly immediately after misspelling the word "but" :) And although I'm not entirely sure what it being 2023 has to do with anything, I do commend you for not making any spelling mistakes in your reply to my comment! (Assuming the five extra a's in "weak" were intentional and not another error) Perhaps there's hope for you yet!

2023 - The Year of Poor Spelling! (Or is it “The Yeer of Pour Speling”)

Weird Jim, are you talking to me good sir?

I was - laughing at the fact he excused his poor spelling because it was 2023 - the first comment was directed at Toon though

@ Jim, I stated in myself that I didn't find everything about the issue perfect. My score isn't because I give every book a 9, its because I usually only bother reviewing when I really like a book or a series. And no, a spelling error doesn't change the argument, now that others have chimed in clearly no one has contested my conclusion. So it seems I was on the money.

@tron, is this a confession? Because there are grammatical errors in your comment and spelling errors. When you're referring to a subject action you use "you're" not "your". Now this is your argument, not mine. But given you dont offer much else what am I to conclude from this?

No one has actually contested that they were sent here because it is true... "free thinkers" when an internet personality tells them what to think, I suppose.

@WeirdScienceJim Ah yes, I had a good laugh over that as well! Literacy was so 2022. I guess I just need to get with the times.

@Toonstrack, "No one has said I am wrong, therefore I am right." Really? That's the argument you're going with? In 2023??

@marvvel no, I'm right because what I'm saying is correct, and the fact no one is denying it is because it's correct and they know it is correct. You see how that works? @tron compelling argument, however I am not wrong. Have you even read the issue? Be honest. You can say if you haven't.

No, it's not reasonable to call a book bad because it and has a gay character. Thats as laughable as calling a book bad because it has a dwarf, or a little person. It makes no sense and has no bearing on a books quality. If you dont like this story being told thats reasonable. Not liking that this book doesn't reflect your idealized reality is juvenile. The book was attacked simple for featuring an original gay character when thats what yall have been saying they SHOULD do. Double standards.

I mean, I should rephrase that it is "acceptable" as in one is allowed to do it, but it is certainly not rational, or reasonable. I dont like smoking, but I would not call a book bad because a character in it smokes. That would be ridiculous.

Nothing was propaganda. They never said "you should be this way" or anything. No one even makes a statement about it. If you consider the very presence of people with a different lifestyle as propaganda, that means you have an inherent bias against their presence. Because presence isn't a statement. Its presented in a passive matter of fact manner and did wasn't even advertised before release.

So your comparison is a false equivalence. Gay people exist, so at this point, its more of a statement to actively avoid showing them around. No message is being sent, simply a story is being told. It may be a little distracting because it wasn't always the norm but thats fine. I understand the world changes and people change and views change, and I don't have to gave them all agree with me in order to enjoy a work.

Thats a bit dramatic. And review bombing rhe book on this site is not even a normal or rational response especially when, it isn't actively advertising anything and it isn't even being judge as a full book. Im telling you many here didn't even end it but just followed someone who pointed them in a direction and said go. Its the exact opposite of how art critics should be.

These people live a very miserable life man, it's sad

@toon - there was no review bombing - the original thing you were talking about - the person mentioning Gabe Hernandez - was a reviewer who said they were surprised that they actually agreed with gabe (meaning they usually don’t) about the book! You need better reading comprehension. As for the issue : it’s a hawkgirl book, yet Axlrod is more interested in pushing her own character, Galaxy, who saves the day and has everyone talking about her while Hawkgirl is written very unlikeable

General ck (who has 1451 reviews) said “ Wow, I'm actually agreeing with Gabe Hernandez for once!” That’s not review bombing - gabe hernandez has an Critic Review on this site - that’s why the guy mentioned him!

@jim The book remains a hawkgirl book lol. No one in the book discusses galaxy beyond a single page of batman reviewing her origin. The rest is about hawkgirl and setting up the villain. It might not he directly from Gabe, but its very clear some of these reviews didn't even bother reading the issue just based on their vagueness and incorrect details.

To those in this thread, Toon is not an honest actor. They constantly attack people, and when people respond to defend themselves, they say that is a win for them because no one called out their own poor arguments. Even in my comment where I laid out the pages and the artistic choices that I disagreed with, they made baseless accusations. I think this should just remain an agree to disagree situation. Toon can think its an 8.5 and most other people can think it is sub 5. That is fair.

It is so much more about Galaxy - more background info for Galaxy than Hawkgirl (who is in need of a definitive background with the new open timeline), Galaxy saves Hawkgirl and stops the threat the other heroes can’t and we end up with Hawkgirl crashing unconcious into… Galaxy’s apartment !

The villain is intriguing - I just hope we get more of her and Hawgirl and less of a Galaxy push going forward. Overall though, I don’t think this book will be in the top 200 by issue #3

The heroes were beating up the guys before galaxy ever got there tho, like, they were winning pretty handily except for when hawkgirl took a shot not meant for her. I frankly don't need a book to be in the top 200... and I'm willing to wait and see how the story develops and if they wrap the villain in. I think we all want to he able to enjoy it; so hopefully the reuslt is positive.

I have to say I've enjoyed this comment thread more than this opening issue which isn't great and isn't terrible, in my humble opinion. The art is excellent but the writing left me disappointed, mainly because Kendra is written as pretty unlikeable. And yes, there is clearly a big Galaxy push by the writer/creator. Let's see how issue #2 pans out.

The funniest thing in this comment thread is seeing the weird science guy pretend weird science is legitimate when we all know it's the dregs of comic book criticism.

The irony of having a V avatar and saying this. Alan Moore was that one trick pony in the 80s.

Yo Toons, keep it up. Keep being positive with comics. Having a high rating isn't a bad thing. It means you are enjoying the medium unlike a lot of those who just come here to review bomb, hate read or attack creators. Its people like you that keep the comic industry afloat, not these degens that site behind screens and yell into an echo chamber about how their politics are making them pariahs when it's their words and actions that are just outdated and miserable. I'm genuinely glad you liked it

I don't think it's hateful. It's literally hateful comments and reviews. Your ill-fitting mask seems to be falling in front of your eyes and blocking your view of the obvious bigots and hate mongers.

You are hateful and mean. Or at the very least side with those who are up front about it and don't feign to hide behind the imagery or ideals of someone they don't understand. "Woke-ism" is a fear created and perpetuated by YOU and those you side with because you hate change. Hate the idea of gender/sexual/racial equality and think that any representation is some sort of mandatory ramming. You don't have to read this. Nor do you have to continue your tired tirade on any comment section you see.

I also kept it vague. Not mentioning any particular person or group. Just that the nebulous review bombers and hateful echo chamber members were the ones that are insufferable. YOU put yourself in that camp by assuming I meant you and essentially rug pulling yourself. Good job mate. Cheerio!

You insinuate that I didn't take your message's meaning by repeating what you said as if I hadn't addressed it. I did. To you and your V persona. Seems I was right that the mask slipped in front of your eyes because you clearly had a hard time reading it. Under no uncertain terms did I dodge or misconstrue what you said. "Don't shit on those who don't cause you think it's hateful and mean." I told you that you were clearly blind to those who are blatantly mean and hateful. Reading comprehension?

So self righteous to be pro-equality. If only no one gave a shit like you don't, we'd all be chill. Apathy is just bigotry with an extra step. If you are bothered by the existence of caring, then you clearly are predisposed to the position of being against it.

The brain disease of centrism is borne from a basic lack of comprehension about the very topics you throw yourself into in every comment thread. Read up, learn and come back when you can make an argument that's not just obsessing over having things shoved down your throat.

Art is inherently political. And comic books are art. The reason we bring up your V avatar is that you constantly complain about politics in comics yet you rep the main character of The Political Comic™. It just shows that you have a bias towards left leaning politics, and it's not simply politics as a whole, and that you were too stupid to understand or haven't read V for Vendetta.

Thanks for caring @amazing Psycamorean! I love that we have almost identical overall ratings for the reviews, but that doesn't matter I guess

"Apathy is just bigotry with an extra step." Lmao. If only the anointed intellectuals within the education system were more in line with the likes of Thomas Sowell there would be far less empty platitudes and divisive rhetoric from clueless far-left millennials churned out of their propaganda machine.

Thomas Sowell is an idiot that conservatives parrot around to appear not racist. They found the one black guy with enough survivorship bias to make Bill Cosby blush, and they shove him out there in a desperate attempt to excuse their racist rhetoric. He sounds smart to people with no comprehension skills, and no one else. He's a joke.

I don't think he's an Uncle Tom, I think he's a pickme. Similar to someone like Candace Owens. Someone who dislikes their own group and therefore tries to appeal as other.

Jesus Christ you're racist. People like him because he's intelligent and studied under Milton Friedman, not because he's black. What a weasel you are.

Well, no. People don't like him because he's intelligent, because what he says is, in fact, stupid. They like him because he gives credence to their biases, which are racist. How does he do that? By saying racist things about black people while being black, and dressing those things up as intellectual thinking, which adds to their credibility among the stupid.

The real racist is the one who agrees with and believes racist things, even when black people say them. Thomas Sowell, for instance, is a giant critic of affirmative action, which I assume you agree with since you're criticizing the education system. Affirmative action is a good thing for minorities; it recognizes the socioeconomic imbalance between the different races due to a history of segregation, bigotry and violence.

It allows people who otherwise would be stuck in their station to rise beyond it, instead of continuing a cycle of poverty that would otherwise be impossible to escape. The people against affirmative action are racist people, and Thomas Sowell is one of them.

Agreeing with Gabe? 100% sus!

If you like Tigra, you should check out the Moon Knight book. She has been in it for a bit now

I like Moon Knight, but I'm tapped out on the number of books I'm buying. What's the writer. I'll pick up the trade. I have heard good things about this run.

No name villain is a classic Shazam villain, btw. This 4-parter seems to be trying to sort out all the convoluted stuff that has happened to Billy over the last 2-3 years.

Yeah, I get that. He's been stuck on the rock for a while.

the big thing is finding out the Ascendent were vs the Sith and also it should lead to Aphra getting her droids back - those two things are pretty big

You mean the droids that tried to kill her numerous times. I'm not sure why she would want them back

I’m not sure if you are reading or understanding the book - the Spark Eternal wants the droids! Aphra even tells it that the droids will kill them!

Glad to see how you eliminate Tim Sheridan of Flashpoint lmao.

He's on that, too? Ugh. I just can't stand the guy's writing.

Flashpoint book is more of a prequel

You mean it's a prequel to the big stuff Williamson is planning? That may be so but I'm still pretty excited about it. I like Thomas Wayne, I like Johns as a writer, he created the character, I also like Adams on The Flash. I really hope it will be good.

I think it may be a prequel to show how the Flashpoint timeline survived before the Button story in Rebirth - might explain the Tom King stuff better than he explained it which was pretty much not really explaining it at all

It seems to be telling the story of Flashpoint timeline continuing after Barry seemed to erase it at the end of Flashpoint

Yeah, I've seen the solicits. I hope Johns will do Thomas justice since he created the character. The sooner we put all that villain stuff from King behind the character, the better.

I think it might just set that up so it makes sense retroactively

Or he could pull a "it was actually Parallax all along and not Hal's fault" but for Thomas. As in, he was brainwashed/controlled by some evil entity. Though I'm not sure I would like to see that, if I'm honest. What's done is done, Thomas needs to redeem himself/move on but not giving up on what's making him different from Bruce.

I agree Merelyn, and the Tom King writing was such a disaster, which of course, DC Comics published. But at the end of the day, Alfred Pennyworth is the elephant in the room. Everything else can be resolved.. but. And not the first time he died (Detective #328-1964). Until Alfred is resolved, Flashpoint Thomas Wayne will remain a tragic figure, which I am sure many find to be an awful situation. We have multiple realities, surely Alfred could be restored. Maybe not.

I wish there was an "edit" button on these comments. Sorry Merlyn for typo on your name.

No problem. I think Alfred will surely come back after Williamson does his big event,

I hope you are right, but honestly skeptical. I think DC views Alfred a 20th century character that does not fit into its New World Order. I am still bitter with Superman Clark Kent after Injustice Issue #23. I don't care if it is an "Elseworld" or whatever. I have always been skeptical about the Superman Übermensch transcending good or evil. Without values, our human identities are reduced to animals. Sorry for rambling.

DC does view Alfred a 20th century character that does not fit into its New World Order. You can tell that by how almost all writers sneer at the idea that Bruce has a butler, it's that marxist rhetoric in full swing, "oh you're so rich you have someone keeping your house". This reminds me of the stupid shit Peter Dinklage pulled with the dwarfs from the future Disney movie (not that I give one damn about it, Disney is slowly ruining all its movies with their progressive agenda).

In his effort to be more progressive he could take those jobs from people LIKE HIM but much, much poorer who could only dream otherwise at a job like that. That's the problem when you're guided by ideology and not reason, you end up hurting the people you're supposedly trying to help. Not that these people truly want to help other people, it's all about virtue signaling for them. The same could be said of the writers who think that it's a sin to have a butler.

Well, tell that to the people who are doing these jobs and are payed handsomely for them. There, now we both rambled. :)

As per the Injustice Superman, people hate me here for criticizing Tom Taylor but I really loved Injustice, not gonna lie. I can't remember what he did in that particular issue and you are right, without values we are turning into animals. It's just that I could get that A Superman out of, say a multiverse of them, could snap when he's killed the pregnant love of his life and could after that try to prevent that from happening to someone else.

And, as we know all too well sadly, a lot of men who were initially "saviors" or "heroes" to their people turned into dictators and genocidal maniacs believing they are doing what they're doing for the greater good, for a better tomorrow.